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  1. uglytuna uglytuna is offline

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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:34pm)

    <SPAN class=postbody>Okay I’ve been playing on FTP for a long time now, since its inception.

    I've notice a pattern or flaw of suck outs. I would say 80% this is the case.

    If a short stacked goes all in with Ace King and the chip leader or any other player calls with more chips they will suck out there 3 outer

    I'm not complain about bad beats. But I can tell you in tournaments when I push with the worst of it against and short stack, i'm confident that I will suck out.

    I've seen KQ lose to AK way too much because KQ was the chip leader.

    Has anyone else notice this, it happens time after time again. Next time in a SNG or a tournament, the Short Stack pushed watch how many times he will get eliminated with the best hand going in. I’m mean this happens at such a high rate it scary!!! I know you see more hands online then live play but not like this.

    What’s your thoughts??? I'm not complaining, but I just find it very un-live-like poker!

    -uglytuna
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:38pm) in reply to uglytuna

    I've noticed the same thing! Thats why I quit playing on FTP, things are much better on stars.

    <span>lol</span>
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:38pm) in reply to uglytuna

    Your research seems to be infallible.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:39pm) in reply to uglytuna

    A+++++++, would read again!!!111oneoneone
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:41pm) in reply to BomboKlaat

    !!!11!!eleventyone!!1!!!!!
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:43pm) in reply to BomboKlaat

    If a short stacked goes all in with Ace King and the chip leader or any other player calls with more chips they will suck out there 3 outer

    I've seen KQ lose to AK way too much because KQ was the chip leader

    ISN't this 2 diff things?
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:46pm) in reply to uglytuna

    You make a post earlier that you deleted? I replaied to one like this and the thread was gone soon after.

    Over the weekend and last couple of days I have seen the lower hand winning at least 75% of the time. Now I know everybody here is going to say you just remember the bad beats. Well these weren't just me. A lot were just tables I sat at. One of the worse handed to me was my KK vs K7 ( I had the larger stack ). I'm all in preflop and retardo calls with k7. What comes out 3 4 6 5 2. 9's vs q's guy flops quads. I actually started counting and on Tues and Wed of 27 all ins I saw or was involved in and the worst hand won 21 times.

    I want to say I'm just imainging things and I realize two days is not a big enough amount of data BUT when the hand is head at 60 to 40 or better the law of averages would say the hand ahead would win most of the time. I'm going to continue to watch and count so I can get some better numbers but I am honestly starting to think the RNG sucks and something like stars where the cards are set on the deal would be better than the constant shuffle FTP has.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:49pm) in reply to JackBileDuct

    I find that when I pat my head and rub my tummy after shoving I never get sucked out on.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:54pm) in reply to uglytuna

    That explains it... 10 left in the 30k im in about 7th, short stack pushes all in, chip leader at my table calls, i reraise all in with AKclubs big stack calls AJo..

    2 clubs on flop... J on turn gg and down to 8
     
  10. JoeBlazenyc JoeBlazenyc is offline

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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:55pm) in reply to Arobinson11

    Tuna, I did notice that and actually had a post about this here and people made fun of it--- It makes sense to get the tournements over with quicker. Lets face it these sites can close down any day just like party poker did for the US, they need to maximize profits--- just an assumption- i hope its not true but even if it is, i still play on full tilt poker.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:57pm) in reply to Donkey5layer

    stars is same way, so it doesnt matter what site you play it.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 4:58pm) in reply to Arobinson11

    damn it i could have sworn it was rub head and pat tummy... knew i had to be doing something wrong
     
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 5:02pm) in reply to uglytuna

    You only notice the short stack losing because someone is getting knocked out. Do you know how many "suckouts" happen on hands that don't get shown down?

    And if you don't have any numbers there is nothing to talk about... only speculation.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 5:05pm) in reply to Donkey5layer

    ^^^We need new tin foil hatz..
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 5:09pm) in reply to uglytuna

    They must have used the same RNG at last night's Bellagio 5 Diamond WPT when Hachem took Q Q vs. A Q. A on the turn, case Q on the river.

    Live poker is so rigged.

    Peace
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 5:14pm) in reply to JoeBlazenyc

    You're kidding right? FTP cares about getting tournaments over quickly? Please man... they can have a tournament every two minutes... they have SNG's fill up all day long... it doesn't cost them anything to open a million more tables... who at FT cares how long they take? Live cards are live cards... if you're gonna flip a coin you're getting 50 / 50 results IN THE LONG RUN... don't isolate a day's instance and blame a sites RNG.
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    May 31st, 2007 (5/31/2007 11:43pm) in reply to MBMD

    kq has three outs...
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