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Top Set v. Bottom Set v. AA, I love stars

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  1. adgator adgator is offline

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    Jan 13th, 2006 (1/13/2006 7:23pm)

    this is from the $10 one rebuy one addon, i love stars.

    pokerstars Game #3628250917: Tournament #17676882, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/01/13 - 22:09:31 (ET)
    Table '17676882 54' Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: adgator (8330 in chips)
    Seat 2: kwolff (7703 in chips)
    Seat 3: ECCSMIKE (7735 in chips)
    Seat 4: longnap (19325 in chips)
    Seat 5: Cluso (8680 in chips)
    Seat 6: bsg07 (13325 in chips)
    Seat 7: modelx (9025 in chips)
    Seat 8: hard2tel (10140 in chips)
    Seat 9: mackerel t (8385 in chips)
    adgator: posts the ante 25
    kwolff: posts the ante 25
    ECCSMIKE: posts the ante 25
    longnap: posts the ante 25
    Cluso: posts the ante 25
    bsg07: posts the ante 25
    modelx: posts the ante 25
    hard2tel: posts the ante 25
    mackerel t: posts the ante 25
    bsg07: posts small blind 100
    modelx: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to adgator [9c 9h]
    hard2tel: folds
    mackerel t: folds
    adgator: calls 200
    kwolff: folds
    ECCSMIKE: folds
    longnap: calls 200
    Cluso: folds
    bsg07: calls 100
    modelx: raises 400 to 600
    adgator: calls 400
    longnap: calls 400
    bsg07: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9d 4c 6d]
    modelx: bets 800
    adgator: calls 800
    longnap: raises 800 to 1600
    modelx: raises 6800 to 8400 and is all-in
    adgator: calls 6905 and is all-in
    longnap: calls 6800
    *** TURN *** [9d 4c 6d] [Kd]
    *** RIVER *** [9d 4c 6d Kd] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    modelx: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
    longnap: shows [4d 4s] (a flush, King high)
    longnap collected 1390 from side pot
    adgator: shows [9c 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
    bsg07 said, "wow"
    longnap collected 25340 from main pot
    spudd69 is connected
    bsg07 said, "wow"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 26730 Main pot 25340. Side pot 1390. | Rake 0
    Board [9d 4c 6d Kd Jd]
    Seat 1: adgator showed [9c 9h] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
    Seat 2: kwolff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: ECCSMIKE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: longnap showed [4d 4s] and won (26730) with a flush, King high
    Seat 5: Cluso (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: bsg07 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: modelx (big blind) showed [Ah As] and lost with a pair of Aces
    Seat 8: hard2tel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: mackerel t folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. sevenninesuited sevenninesuited is offline

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    Jan 14th, 2006 (1/14/2006 10:17pm) in reply to adgator

    I find it amusing how people think online poker is rigged...you wouldnt care about the action if ur set held up right!
  3. adgator adgator is offline

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    Jan 15th, 2006 (1/15/2006 11:48am) in reply to sevenninesuited

    where did i say online poker is rigged. This is a BAD BEAT forum i just thought i would post a BAD BEAT. I obviously want this situation everytime i flop top set. But since this is a BAD BEAT forum I figured i would post it.
     
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  4. Tajpokerbabe Tajpokerbabe is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2006 (1/16/2006 3:03pm) in reply to sevenninesuited

    when are u people going to wake up and realize
    online poker IS rigged not toward individuals
    (although sometimes i wonder about that)

    this is a computer they are action flops
    something knows whats going to happen
    next

    they want the tourneys over fast
    so people can play more tourneys
    and they can make more money

    if it was not rigged
    the 3000 people tourney on sundays would last somewhere
    like about 18 hours

    i mean when are u people going to "get it"

    if ur shortstacked ur done
    they give u AK or something
    against someones 99

    everytime there is a hand
    someone has AK someone has AA
    someone has AJ

    COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE

    u cant bluff if ya try someone always has that flop

    real live poker is where if u have 8 2 u can go all
    in
    and bluff the pot
    every see when u win a pot
    its instantly up there on the leader board
    i mean before the hand is almost
    over

    the software knows whatsgoing to happen
    whos going to win
    and who needs to be knocked out

    dont care what u say
  5. Skoky Skoky is offline

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    Jan 17th, 2006 (1/17/2006 4:30am) in reply to Tajpokerbabe

    Could not have said it better myself
    You left out the bit about how the bigstack underdog with 44 was the winner of the pot
  6. jdr1wiz jdr1wiz is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2006 (1/19/2006 3:40pm) in reply to Tajpokerbabe

    I think taj makes some good points here, but I think its just the nature of the game.
    I think the online poker sites have way too much to lose if any of the randomness was jeopardized or lost in any way. It just doesn't make business sense for what she is saying to be true. But on the other hand, it does seem like I get handed ridiculous beats a lot!!
  7. PocketJonnys PocketJonnys is offline

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    Jan 19th, 2006 (1/19/2006 3:59pm) in reply to adgator

    Its common sense and simple mathematics which explain why bad beats seem more prevalent online.

    First off, you see 5 times the number of hands online in the same period of time, so you will see 5 times the number of bad beats that you would see in a live game, however the number of beats you see per hand should be relatively the same.

    Secondly, there are more fish online than in a live card room therefore you see people making donk calls and playing cards they shouldnt giving you a much greater chance of encountering a bad beat. Basically people dont know when to fold.

    Lastly, think about how many hands are being played online at a site like party poker per hour. There are thousands of hands per hour. Lets just give a conservative estimate of 10000 hands per hour. Now lets say they make one dollar per hand on the rake for an avg. That is 10000 dollars per hour that the room is making. That means in 24 hours they clear 240000 dollars. This is a conservative estimate also keep in mind, and in actuality is probably alot higher. Now I would ask you, if the online poker sites are clearing over one million dollars per week in rake, why would they bother to stack their decks to bust out players and risk making all that money?
  8. KrazyYankee KrazyYankee is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2006 (1/20/2006 9:55pm) in reply to adgator

    Yah thats Poker stars for ya
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