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Im not trying to level or attrract BS answers....
I bring it up cause of my frustration level....
95% of the tournaments I am getting knocked out and the money goes in the middle when I am ahead.
Seems like Full Tilt always gives the underdog what they need... (I say FT cause I see it almost everytime I play there)
Each FTOPS so far (4) I have been knocked out by 2 outers, and just 2 cards to come (ie. AA, on QQ4 board, villain has 66..Money goes in... I lose), just an example but always happens.
Really getting frustrating being KO as a 4:1 favorite EVERY tournament on TILT....
Am I playing too tight if 95% I go in ahead... and win only 10-20 percent
Am I the unluckiest bastard around?
Full Tilt is Tilting me
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The swings of tournament poker are bigger than most people will ever realize. Most people have a very selective memory when it comes to getting knocked out of MTTs. Even if you're getting it in good all the time, you could be coolering someone else which is a run good in itself. Just keep playing and looking for ways to improve and the results will sort themself out.
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The great man once said if you are always getting it in good, then you are not getting it in enough. You will never win a tournament without getting lucky. Just keep playing it will come. Full Tilt has me thinking I would never hit a final table again on many, many times.
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think annette said that lol before
Originally Posted by JksRbetter
The great man once said if you are always getting it in good, then you are not getting it in enough. You will never win a tournament without getting lucky. Just keep playing it will come. Full Tilt has me thinking I would never hit a final table again on many, many times.
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I like this quote. It seems to me that if you have a chiplead, you gotta put the pressure on and have your AQ>AK, J10>AK, etc. GL at the tables.
Originally Posted by JksRbetter
The great man once said if you are always getting it in good, then you are not getting it in enough. You will never win a tournament without getting lucky. Just keep playing it will come. Full Tilt has me thinking I would never hit a final table again on many, many times.
And oh yea, whenever i made a post like this, people bitch and say "bad beat." Be fortunate you are getting feedback. -
Kinda like me getting 2/3 outed upwards of 25 times yesterday. It happens (over and over again sometimes). Stay positive. Stay neutral to the cards and keep grindin. Just keep playing your game and getting yourself in those positions.
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I only see the brutal suctouts FTP (Constantly that is).
I am getting really frustrated with FTP.... just played Rush Rebuy, rebought 3 times... lost to 2 outers each time (Pre Flop once, on the flop twice)
I am very frustrated with FTP on many levels... I have been waiting since the first week of November for 3 withdrawals. Not very professional in my opinion.
I like FTP software, but currently that is about all I like.
FTP needs to man up and get processing. Shitty having money in limbo over a month and counting! -
Dude, Rush is a fucking joke. If you can't handle beats, only play superstacks and rebuys. Rush is a fucking crapshoot.
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Your just the unluckiest bastard around, no one comes close to taking the kinda beats you describe. And 95%, wow! How did you go about finding that number out, cuz 95% is just quiet absurd, I feel awful for you. Shame on me for getting upset about 5min ago when my KK<QQ aipf, I mean at least I'm not the unluckiest bastard around.
Venting -
Just finished getting beaten up with the best hand on Rush, thats why I bring it up... Fill in the blank... I have been making deep runs on other poker sites... FTP is crushing my soul. Suckouts and no payments...
I understand there is ALOT of variance in MTT.
I appreciate the feedback...
I also like the quote about getting it in...
Perhaps I'll try playing a bit more maniacal and see where that gets me
Ship the Turbo FTOPS in 20 minutes? OK -
cue the violin....
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best hand pre never wins
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we aren't saying be a maniac. You have to look for good spots where it is +EV to shove where a high percent of the time they will be folding which makes the play worth while. I've been running real bad to getting in good and getting sucked out on. If you keep making the right decisions the cards will eventually fall your way.
Edited By: chiptaker31 Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:06 PM
When you have a good reshove stack (around 20BB). You shouldn't be raise folding really at all. Looking to get it in against active players -
Edited By: Lenail Dec 11th, 2010 at 10:34 PMNo 1 of the positive reply !!!Originally Posted by Scarypooper
The swings of tournament poker are bigger than most people will ever realize. Most people have a very selective memory when it comes to getting knocked out of MTTs. Even if you're getting it in good all the time, you could be coolering someone else which is a run good in itself. Just keep playing and looking for ways to improve and the results will sort themself out.
Variance is like a sleeping monster ... -
Ya, I know maniacal isnt the word... But the fact is.... If I always put the money in 'good" I am going to be sucked out on more than average obviously... I am just kinda frustrated with FTP cause of the withdrawal issues...
But truly... I am sucked out on FTP 5x more than PS and UB combined.
PS... Just got it in as a big stack with AQ in a spot i normally would fold.... Villain had AK!!!! I WIN -
u obv dont understand variance.
Originally Posted by Channing83
Ya, I know maniacal isnt the word... But the fact is.... If I always put the money in 'good" I am going to be sucked out on more than average obviously... I am just kinda frustrated with FTP cause of the withdrawal issues...
But truly... I am sucked out on FTP 5x more than PS and UB combined.
PS... Just got it in as a big stack with AQ in a spot i normally would fold.... Villain had AK!!!! I WIN
u get it in as an 80% favorite 5 times in one tourny
.8^5 = .33
u should win all 5 of those 1/3 of the time.
thats only 5 times in 1 tourny. and thats assuming u get it in as an 80% fav each time.
u dont understand variance. -
seriously go look at everyones roi's on stars vs tilt, only a few have higher on tilt. i hate there random number generator. its sh1t.
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The answer is obvious. Call off your stack with garbage if the worst hand is going to win.
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I think anyone who was ever good at poker before said this.
Oh, and everyone that thinks they lose with AA every time, go into your hem or pt3 and check your win pct with AA, KK, AKs, AKo, etc. If you have any sample size it will be right along where it should be. -
nah, it's actually never happened in the history of poker.
Edited By: gjallen1975 Dec 12th, 2010 at 12:52 AM
I take that back, I believe Wild Bill Hickock's aces and eights were good and he was certainly knocked out, although that was prolly a cash game.
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I know what ya mean bro. just be happy your not runnin bad on on three sites like I am. lol In my opion UB is by far the worst ,one outed 3 times in the last 2 weeks. I keep tellin myself my luck will change , maybe next year. LOL
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I think this was a cash game and probably draw poker. Definitely one of the worst "beats" of all time, though.
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Originally Posted by drgnarn
seriously go look at everyones roi's on stars vs tilt, only a few have higher on tilt. i hate there random number generator. its sh1t.
ya man , i wrote thread about this 2 weeks ago,my roi on stars like 70% positive, negative 20% on tilt, wtf does this mean,obviously geting fuked on tilt daily.... -
@channing83 : The best place on the web to blow off you head with bad beats is one and only FULL TILT... i have been hitting ma head on the wall quite a few times.. and when the streak just kept on flowing the wrong way i decided not to play on this sad site,
I thought it was only me who was hitting the bad beat but then i started reserching what other user has to say.. and then i realised there is some fckin problem with their RNG..
its been a year now i dint log into that cardroom...
sickest ever...
thanks for posting this thread.. it feels great when i share this with people..... -
You want some serious numbers - try these:
At Full Tilt and stars mostly - but some Absolute
ALL IN PRE FLOP results (So no player input - just sheer probability)_
Using an average result for each possible ALLl In type - eg. Over Pair vs Under Pair is approximately 80% - a pair against 1 over card (TT vs A7 for instance) is 68% and so on -
I have 1392 Pre Flop All Ins recorded;
66% or better 413 hands (30%) - Expected wins 311 - actual 250 - down 19.75%
50-65% - 395 hands - Expected wins 219 - actual 179 - down 18%
Over 40% (this is totally Overcards vs a pair) - 220 hands - expected win 103 - actual 95 down only 8% here
less than 40% (mostly underpair vs over pair and late short stack SnG pushes with any picture or suited connector stuff) 354 hands - expected win 97 actual 83 - down 15%
This financial year (Australian FY) I have played 11 weeks of poker - I have not had a single week where I have run above average as far as expected wins are concerned.
Of the 14 categories where I have 10 results or more I am not above average in any single one - the best is wone where I only have 11 results and am only down 2% - the next best is down 9% - the worst a Pair vs One Overcard - I am 25% below expectation here.
Overall I run at approximately 17% down on expectation with Pre Flop Al Ins - it is very hard giving your opponents a 17% advantage and still show a profit - particularly in short stack SnGs.
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