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  1. That site has the biggest donkeys on gods earth calling a raise a re raise with ace 5 wtf and noo he was not short stack, calling with a flush draw on turn thats 20% for all his stack, 2 outs or anything does not mean anything they can still catch it, these crazy donkeys go all in for draws fish to river, they dont read boards or multi level think do they even observe how many hands a guy is playing, 5 people limp each time or the whole table wtf well sometimes.

    Also they overate hands i mean king jack vs ace x whats the percentage they dont give 2 furkss any ace and suited :s sure suiteds good vs more players but how much will they call with them half their stack wtf

    Having said sure im new to online i spend my weekends in casinos sure the level i am playing online is not great as im still getting used to the flow, sure i play cashgames live i have no tournament experience but wtfff.

    Maybe im just done with tourneys i mean out of 2000 - 6000 people how many donkeys can there be a risk is even to enter the tourney and yes i know the maths 80 percent of the time you are failing in tourneys, grinding mtts = lose lose lose lose win small lose lose lose lose lose lose win big.

    Cash games any level 0.50nl and higher its good you have control although the players are ridicolously nittty but mtt tourneys wtf how do people get back up after all they see or even play seriously in these.

    Have only won don sngs 10-50 dollar, pl multi sngs, and 180 man oh also that uk and ireland league thingy 1st pos apparently theres a monthly prize but i have only played one cant be bothered to get more points.

    HOW DO PEOPLE PLAY MTTS :o

    fulltilt has way better players i was playing with my freinds account won the ko thingy and a couple of sngs

    Also no offense to the serious online players but i have always said this in regards to publicity, marketing, ease of access, minimum deposit any inexperienced can sit, any experienced can lose thats why the 70 percent are donkeys but damn the 30 how the furk doyou guys cope with this shiiight.

    btw i was playing the rebuy 50k gtd and 30k gtd and well allot of the gtds and thats when i came to my conclusion.
  2. My guess is you are mostly playing lower stake levels while having the mindset that a higher stakes player, but even in $100+ buy ins you still see some really bad players. Heck even the Main event has some shockingly bad players. Don't try anything fancy like slow playing, except in rare cases. If a few people limp or make a small raise before you while you've been dealt a big pair or AK, go all in. Same if you flop a monster with flush and straight draws being out there. Probably the most important thing is if someone re-raises you on the river after check calling all the way you can be pretty sure they've made their hand otherwise they will call you with pocket 2's and lose to your 2 pair. By the sounds of it like I've hinted earlier your game is probably lacking and needing improvement.
  3. dont even want to reply to your post, honestly you dont know what you are talking about and have a memory/recognition problem.

    yeh limps weak!!!!

    yeh ace kings so nice push push push!!!!

    sarcasm

    (from the looks of it you have been reading poker books and educating yourself from videos and thats not a compliment)
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  4. Obviously in general you should never do that, but at the micro levels it's not that bad a strategy. If you're regularly getting *donked* then you're clearly a flawed player who simply won't own up to having leaks.
  5. ok i get what you were trying to say i just was not bothered to validate, yes i do increase my percentages yes i do protect my hands, yes i only slow play when i have minimum opponants and the board is not scary or i have the certain nutz and im up by a very high percentage, let me explain one donkey completely missed the flop and called 40k with j6 i had pocket 9s now i re raised preflop he was trying to steal my bb he was sb, blind vs blind is obviously aggressive i bet half the pot on the flop he re raised i shoved he called and the flop was rainbow no draws no face cards nothing, now after playing i dont know how long in a tourney its blatant i would think to myself whats going on.

    ok then im not spending below 200 for a mtt would you agree ?

    really want to adapt to tourney play and online, cash games i have no problems online but i dont want to play cash games i do enough of that live my online ventures all about learning mtt play.

    btw i regularly get donked when its nearly the end of the tourny
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  6. I guess what PokerAK is trying to say is that the large amounts of donks will definitely increase your variance, but in the long run it should all pay off if you play decent poker. That's my take anyway, I completely agree pokerstars is a minefield, but i'm sticking around for a while to take advantage (hopefully....)
  7. You are free to disagree if you want, but this is why in a low level buy in it's not that horrible a strategy.

    pokerstars Game #29124440844: Tournament #170147663, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20)
    Table '170147663 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: kiesta612 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: RavenLipetsk (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: patrashanka (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: bambolin1 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: riedikkielus (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: Billykit860 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dubi666 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: M.S.1968 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: PokerAK (1500 in chips)
    Seat 10: keniata (1500 in chips)
    RavenLipetsk: posts small blind 10
    patrashanka: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to PokerAK [Kd Kh]
    bambolin1: folds
    riedikkielus: folds
    Billykit860: folds
    Dubi666: raises 80 to 100
    M.S.1968: calls 100
    PokerAK: raises 1400 to 1500 and is all-in
    keniata: folds
    kiesta612: folds
    RavenLipetsk: folds
    patrashanka: folds
    Dubi666: folds
    M.S.1968: calls 1400 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [As Js 6d]
    *** TURN *** [As Js 6d] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [As Js 6d 5d] [Jc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    M.S.1968: shows [Jh 8h] (three of a kind, Jacks)
    PokerAK: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
    M.S.1968 collected 3130 from pot

    Sure I got donked (or very unlucky), but I was 81% favourite to win when the money went it. In the long run thats all I really care about.
  8. Very good illustration of what I was mentioning: in 'normal' circumstances you'd
    have won the pot, however here you have a 80% chance to win a much larger pot and a 20% chance to lose it all - hence increasing your EV BUT also the variance associated... In investment terms: higher returns implies higher risk and vice versa...
  9. yes i agree thats the only positive about micros anyway lots of action ( and that was the right play anyway by the raisers and limpers you know aces are not live and you may have a better percentage with kings and defo a donkey will call but i would personally not shove il re raise a lil more check the flop then shove), was not talking about micro micro i only did a few of those, between 5 to 11 lol lets talk about, anyway started on (FULLTILT first deposit) did the ko 90 man love the structure can pick my spots etc only won one made 4th nl holdem ahh 1st can go last in a second, spent all the profit on gtds i did the 35 k gtd 500 and something place i had 16bb left chose to push with ace 10 because a short stack would call with his last 2k which he did showed pocket 6s i hit a 10 i had a luckbox call ahead of me i mean the same guy gets another pair of pockets jacks i mean he just shoots up from 5 k to 16k and i actually had to steal blinds bluff all the way long no good hands lol.

    25k gtd 700 and something pos maybe me well me i had pocket aces i limped with and you know these guys cant fold ace king lol he raised i flat called, flop king deuce deuce, check raised i shoved now a donkey would think i hit a deuce lol obviously less likely i want his perception to be i have hit the king or have med pockets because i know he has ace king so he instant calls , turn :S river king ahh he had live cards happens, 200k double deuce i fell asleep and just pushed every second lol the tourneys run so late 8000 people or something yeh was not feeling it.

    so i managed to wake up and felt hungry got my freind to drop off some energy drinks and ordered some fast food, attempt no.2 at 35k gtd, until after first break my table was super tight not one move i was getting rags like 25,62, 10 2, after first break i had 4k average was 10 i thought fuck it lets play with rags, then got 25 sooted lol called a 4x raise he had position on me i knew guy hit the turn with ace 5 or he has an overpair, on turn as i made 2 pair i pushed i knew he would call because i was moving all in allot of pots so when i have something they wont know, easy boared guy calls after a long think with ace 5 river boarded me a boat, erm j5 diamonds limp in med late bets i call, flush draw and he had a stong ace i knew he hit top pair on flop i bet guy re raises i called, turn blank queen for him 2 pair i value bet he flat calls river my 20 percent got there i check he bets i bet the pot enough for him to call if i shove he probably would fold 26 dollar im not expecting a donkey and he just knows i wont bluff there made about 3k there.

    ermm what happened then yeh aggro styled my way up to 8k squeeze play and crap and i wernt buying peoples bluffs i mean they play so tight, limps on sb bb i thought lets not steal like its worth anything anyway these guys barely make moves only when its their sb or bb, let them raise on the flop and bluff bluff and let me push, sb calls bb bets i re raise bb re raises i push kj top pair on flop but i dont want a call, finally one super tight nit gets his kings im thinking im calling this phucker with 10 6 sooted i dont need pockets lol i shoved on the flush draw 36 phucking percent i dont care i wana get a bigger stack so i can take bigger risks and call short stacks with im in it to win it or lose i know they have no disapline to fold pockets which makes me want to crack em lol obvious reason chip lead oh i had a gutshot aswell.

    and thats it i got out, i mean i check the info see guys with 35 k, 45k stacks im thinking why give me rags for an hour lol im half asleep, anyway i figured out i managed to make myself above average even though i got rags all the way, if i did not gamble and waited like punks for pockets who knows and continued the same pick spot bluffs and rags vs ace x strategy lol i mean come on give me some suited connectors or something good and versatile i like to raise with them, 3am or something i was conked out.

    man i want the 35 gtd badly lol if i win one of those id skill kill the online cash games

    btw sorry for grammer i typed this in approx 4 minutes lol

    26 dollars on fulltilt thats a must buy in
    did the daily dollar also 1677 out of 7483 i was maybe 200 and soemthing pos it was really easy to chip up but i fell asleep again they run so late it was maybe 4am, pushed with ace q and said bye bye i tried it a second time and was de motivated have no idea what rank probably first to go out but i beleive that tourney is a challenge i mean if you can turn 1 dollar into 1k i would call that a accomplishment.
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  10. Pocket aces is the best hand in hold'em. I recommend you go "all in" with this pair, anything else you just "call"
  11. greatness makes you fold aces you have not reached greatness lol and what are you talking about this has nothing to do with aces

    and i dont need aces i hate people who just wait for pockets, i love cracking them you know why they have not reached greatness to fold aces lol
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  12. I agree with the OPs subject line, but please use periods in your next post.
  13. will do i type fast you see :)
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  14. is your frustration here why you are so mad at that lame dude trying to sleep with chicks in china?
  15. no bro that was later, my frustration here was i had no cigerettes, yeh us bangladeshis are kinda hot blooded need to cut down on the chilli lol.
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