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At what point do I just quit. This is really getting hard to take

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  1. jarandjar jarandjar is offline

    Derry, NH
    United States

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    Jun 14th, 2009 (6/14/2009 5:10pm)

    I mean seriously. how many more of these before I start believing its rigged against me. Im only on the worst downswing ever, and I dont know what to think any more. FUCK EVERYONE

    pokerstars Game #29368369814: Tournament #169968151, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/06/14 17:04:17 ET
    Table '169968151 62' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: abindis (12695 in chips)
    Seat 3: Bedazzled777 (8625 in chips)
    Seat 4: chillykid (19992 in chips)
    Seat 5: raverjoe (6790 in chips)
    Seat 6: Faneste50 (8325 in chips)
    Seat 7: phil132 (7980 in chips)
    Seat 8: pgg66 (13850 in chips)
    Seat 9: PocketwAAtch (13390 in chips)
    abindis: posts the ante 50
    Bedazzled777: posts the ante 50
    chillykid: posts the ante 50
    raverjoe: posts the ante 50
    Faneste50: posts the ante 50
    phil132: posts the ante 50
    pgg66: posts the ante 50
    PocketwAAtch: posts the ante 50
    chillykid: posts small blind 200
    raverjoe: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to raverjoe [7h Ah]
    Faneste50: folds
    phil132: folds
    pgg66: folds
    PocketwAAtch: folds
    abindis: folds
    Bedazzled777: raises 480 to 880
    chillykid: folds
    raverjoe: calls 480
    *** FLOP *** [6c As 4d]
    raverjoe: checks
    Bedazzled777: bets 2800
    raverjoe: raises 3060 to 5860 and is all-in
    Bedazzled777: calls 3060
    *** TURN *** [6c As 4d] [9h]
    *** RIVER *** [6c As 4d 9h] [6s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    raverjoe: shows [7h Ah] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
    Bedazzled777: shows [Ks 6d] (three of a kind, Sixes)
    Bedazzled777 collected 14080 from pot
    jerlund is connected
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 14080 | Rake 0
    Board [6c As 4d 9h 6s]
    Seat 1: abindis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Bedazzled777 (button) showed [Ks 6d] and won (14080) with three of a kind, Sixes
    Seat 4: chillykid (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: raverjoe (big blind) showed [7h Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sixes
    Seat 6: Faneste50 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: phil132 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: pgg66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: PocketwAAtch folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 4:20am) in reply to jarandjar

    If you find this too hard to take, then fold your A-rag OOP preflop.
  3. KnotStoopid KnotStoopid is offline

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    Jun 15th, 2009 (6/15/2009 3:44pm) in reply to DutchCourage

    He's right. You did raise on the button with an ace, which is a fine play, and you got all your money in as a favorite, which is also fine. The reality is that the more hands you play, the more bad beats you will see, no matter how you get your money in. Don't play weak aces for big pots and you'll be less likely to take a bad beat.
  4. mistertwy mistertwy is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 4:58pm) in reply to jarandjar

    Not really a bad beat IMO. You've called a raise in BB with an ace-rag which in my mind is risky - if the ace hits the board you don't know whether you're ahead or not. You need to reraise preflop or fold.

    Even worse, you've checked the flop, so when he c-bets you still don't know whether you're ahead. You could lead out to get rid of mediocre hands, or a reraise shove from him etc makes a fold an easy decision. He's called with 2nd pair as he probably doesn't put you on an ace (plus he committed himself terribly) as you didn't reraise preflop. It's true, you disguised your hand well, and it's true you're favourite, but this situation could be worse. How often in this spot could you be outkickered by a better ace?

    Remember also this a $10 mtt. You get alot of poor players in these tourneys and the way to get deeper is to take advantage of weak play. Think of bad beats in a literal sense - if he turned his K6 over before you reraised him, would you make the same play? Of course you would, you WANT to get it all in as an 80% favourite. You can't control the cards, and you shouldn't play if you cannot get to grips with that idea.

    Your last few words are an indication to your attitude in mtt play. You must think clearly, try to put them on a hand. More importantly, remember the hand. If you get to this situation again you will know what to do, experience is essential to a successful player. Don't think you will always lose races, and don't expect to get beaten - think positively, think clearly.

    Good luck

    Rob
    (mistertwy)
     
  5. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 5:15pm) in reply to mistertwy

     
    Originally Posted by mistertwy View Post

    You get alot of poor players in these tourneys

    LOL - I guess that point was clear from the hh...
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