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Why the fk does this always happen to me??????????????????

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  1. focker5 focker5 is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 3:33am)

    pokerstars Game #14975235509: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2008/02/01 - 04:24:03 (ET)
    Table 'Lunaria II' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: MiracleFlop ($197.10 in chips)
    Seat 3: craig315 ($302.80 in chips)
    Seat 4: DocStats ($524.15 in chips)
    Seat 5: blu4x5_II ($126.45 in chips)
    Seat 6: Depops ($40.35 in chips)
    Seat 7: adam258 ($101.75 in chips)
    Seat 8: Dilith ($189 in chips)
    Seat 9: TIMESHARE ($116.55 in chips)
    adam258: posts small blind $1
    Dilith: posts big blind $2
    smile large: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to adam258 [Kh Th]
    TIMESHARE: folds
    MiracleFlop: calls $2
    craig315: folds
    DocStats: folds
    blu4x5_II: calls $2
    Depops: raises $6 to $8
    adam258: calls $7
    Dilith: folds
    MiracleFlop: calls $6
    blu4x5_II: calls $6
    *** FLOP *** [Td 6h Tc]
    adam258: checks
    MiracleFlop: bets $16
    blu4x5_II: folds
    Depops: folds
    adam258: raises $16 to $32
    MiracleFlop: calls $16
    *** TURN *** [Td 6h Tc] [4s]
    adam258: bets $61.75 and is all-in
    MiracleFlop: calls $61.75
    *** RIVER *** [Td 6h Tc 4s] [Js]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    adam258: shows [Kh Th] (three of a kind, Tens)
    MiracleFlop: shows [Jd Jc] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens)
    MiracleFlop collected $218.50 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $221.50 | Rake $3
    Board [Td 6h Tc 4s Js]
    Seat 1: MiracleFlop showed [Jd Jc] and won ($218.50) with a full house, Jacks full of Tens
    Seat 3: craig315 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: DocStats folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: blu4x5_II folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Depops (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: adam258 (small blind) showed [Kh Th] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
    Seat 8: Dilith (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: TIMESHARE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. Bulldogmafia Bulldogmafia is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 9:31am) in reply to focker5

    Wrong forum....bad beats is where this one belongs. :-)

    With that said, I am not a cash game player more of a tourney one but it seems to me that KhTh is not the type of hand you want to call a 4x raise with when you will be out of position for the entire hand. I need to improve my cash game play so could you explain the reason for the call? Also why not lead the flop as a check raise there kind of makes it obvious you have a ten?
  3. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 11:55am) in reply to focker5

    To true - move to bad beats......

    I hate the call preflop, you are OOP with a likely to be dominated hand. Once you hit you got all his chips in the middle drawing to 2 outs. You REALLY have to work hard to get it in better than that. OK, so he hit a 2 outer on you, even 1 outers come in a couple of % of the time. Where would "It's Poker!" be without bad beats? Phill would win every time :)

    Just a basic bad beat.......

    my 2 cents
  4. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 1:45pm) in reply to saukendar

    I really hate the preflop call. Ok, you have some implied odds here. But, you won't be drawing to the nuts (except in very rare spots), your hand isn't connected. Also, this is the sort of hand that you could hit big, and give all your money to someone else.

    You got extremely lucky that you hit this hard, and hit it in such a way that JJ was willing to pay you off. Too many things could have happened here to scare him off.

    So, you had no business being in this hand. This time it didn't lead to any mistakes, but a bad beat. In reality, if everyone played right, you fold this hand, and JJ wins. JJ should have won the hand and ultimately did.

    As played, move this to bad beats, since that's the part you are complaining about.
  5. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 2:38pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    "you could hit big, and give all your money to someone else." AT what? lol
  6. focker5 focker5 is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 2:52pm) in reply to focker5

    All you idiots can suck my dick! Bad pre call bc I'm OOP??????? Idiots! I will HAVE position on the initial raiser who was playing like a moron. Besides, people play way worse hands to far bigger raises. SO, in summation.... SHUT THE FK UP with the move to bad beats shit. He limped in. Serves him right I hit that hard. Then he donks off his chips only to get fuckin lucky and 2 out me. He played the hand terribly and had no clue where anyone else was at pre or post flop. He should have lost all his chips to me. So you all can take your fkin dumb ass advice and shove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  7. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 3:00pm) in reply to focker5

    adam258: posts small blind $1

    Um - looks like you are OOP to all players. I miss something?

    KT is easy to be dominated
    AA, KK, TT, AK, KQ, KJ, AT, AhXh - all hands you expect to see played.

    If you flop a flush w/o the A on board you are getting in and busting out a noticeable % of the time.

    Like I said above, once you hit you got him in drawing to 2 outs. It's all good except the outcome. When you drop a 5k or 6k pot on this I'll feel for you. Till then this is a bad beat on a nothing pot.

    [edit]
    As for him limping Js from UTG+1, well OK so he limped em. He may just be a donk, his later play in the face of a PR board makes this seem likely. Or he may just be trying to manage the pot, you'll see overs to your Js almost 1/2 the time and he is also OOP to most of the table (except you and the BB).

    [edit 2]
    BTW, last weekend on 2 similar hands (I flopped top set on a PR board) in one session the other guy turned up the small boat - sick but it happens. On one I dropped a fresh buyin, the other, well the 4th K rolled off the river so it goes both ways :) So even in this spot 66 would have had you drawing to 3 and 7 outs on the turn and river.
  8. babyblueeyes babyblueeyes is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 4:40pm) in reply to focker5

    The end result is a bad beat but this hand loses $ pre flop most of the time. I would call $1 more but not a 3x bet. For the future, you need to lead out on the flop since you're most likely going to get action from a lot of hands, overpairs, 2 high broadway cards or maybe a hand like 77-99. I think you might have lost a lot of value if you were up against 2 high cards in any future situation like this. Bad break at the end
  9. sTrAtO sTrAtO is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2008 (2/1/2008 5:23pm) in reply to focker5

    this is a very easy fold preflop
    unlucky river
     
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