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pokerstars Game #20336275508: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/09/11 22:50:47 ET
Table 'Grus IV' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: jc96962000 ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 2: trastras ($25.65 in chips)
Seat 3: ipwntable ($29.35 in chips)
Seat 4: scrapesw ($11.90 in chips)
Seat 5: gkapitano ($5 in chips)
Seat 6: Usurpov ($22.60 in chips)
Seat 7: Chris8708 ($17.75 in chips)
Seat 8: playindafox ($7.45 in chips)
Seat 9: voelker ($27.75 in chips)
scrapesw: posts small blind $0.10
gkapitano: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ipwntable [3d 3s]
Usurpov: folds
Chris8708: folds
playindafox: folds
voelker: raises $0.50 to $0.75
jc96962000: calls $0.75
trastras: folds
ipwntable: calls $0.75
scrapesw: calls $0.65
gkapitano: folds
*** FLOP *** [9d 3h Ks]
scrapesw: checks
voelker: bets $2
jc96962000: folds
ipwntable: raises $3.75 to $5.75
scrapesw: folds
voelker: calls $3.75
*** TURN *** [9d 3h Ks] [Td]
voelker: checks
ipwntable: bets $7.50
voelker: raises $13.75 to $21.25 and is all-in
ipwntable: calls $13.75
*** RIVER *** [9d 3h Ks Td] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
voelker: shows [Kd Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Tens)
ipwntable: mucks hand
voelker collected $54.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $57.25 | Rake $2.80
Board [9d 3h Ks Td Tc]
Seat 1: jc96962000 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: trastras folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ipwntable (button) mucked [3d 3s]
Seat 4: scrapesw (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: gkapitano (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Usurpov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Chris8708 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: playindafox folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: voelker showed [Kd Kh] and won ($54.45) with a full house, Kings full of Tens
NEVER FAILS, I'm about to quit becuase of these set-ups, seriously, who can fold this....? and ya some1 will say that they could, but @ these limits u can't... -
Set over Set is the dirtiest thing in cash games.. It sucks when your on the bad end.. But when your on the good end.. Its awesome.
pokerstars GAME #13721177353: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/12/08 - 01:59:08 (ET)
Table 'Seppina III' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: AFink93 ($200.80 in chips)
Seat 3: tmcnik ($176.05 in chips)
Seat 4: poo-onastick ($197 in chips)
Seat 5: Jimmy Chagra ($114.80 in chips)
Seat 6: CPPGuru ($338.85 in chips)
Seat 7: futilewar ($235 in chips)
Seat 8: Duckslayer2k ($207.15 in chips)
Seat 9: Chun_L33 ($165.30 in chips)
tmcnik: posts small blind $1
poo-onastick: posts big blind $2
Doikito: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AFink93 [7c 7s]
Jimmy Chagra: folds
CPPGuru: folds
futilewar: folds
Duckslayer2k: folds
Chun_L33: calls $2
AFink93: raises $6 to $8
tmcnik: calls $7
poo-onastick: folds
Chun_L33: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [7h 3s Jc]
tmcnik: checks
Chun_L33: checks
AFink93: checks
*** TURN *** [7h 3s Jc] [5s]
tmcnik: checks
Chun_L33: checks
AFink93: bets $16
tmcnik: raises $16 to $32
Chun_L33: folds
AFink93: raises $18 to $50
tmcnik: calls $18
*** RIVER *** [7h 3s Jc 5s] [8d]
tmcnik: bets $118.05 and is all-in
AFink93: calls $118.05
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tmcnik: shows [3c 3h] (three of a kind, Threes)
AFink93: shows [7c 7s] (three of a kind, Sevens)
AFink93 collected $359.10 from pot
POKERSTARS GAME #8792362097: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/03/07 - 22:26:54 (ET)
Table 'Valda IV' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jester ($247.05 in chips)
Seat 2: pokervee ($298.40 in chips)
Seat 3: DooMeRFD ($198 in chips)
Seat 4: bluffblocker ($194 in chips)
Seat 5: ClancyGirl ($153.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Omistaja ($203 in chips)
Seat 7: Mr.smith12 ($214.55 in chips)
Seat 8: x-Amadon-x ($184.35 in chips)
Seat 9: AFink93 ($114 in chips)
DooMeRFD: posts small blind $1
bluffblocker: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AFink93 [7d 7c]
ClancyGirl: folds
Omistaja: folds
Mr.smith12: folds
x-Amadon-x: calls $2
AFink93: raises $6 to $8
Jester: folds
pokervee: calls $8
DooMeRFD: folds
bluffblocker: calls $6
x-Amadon-x: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [7h 5h 8d]
bluffblocker: checks
x-Amadon-x: checks
AFink93: bets $12
pokervee: folds
bluffblocker: raises $23 to $35
x-Amadon-x: raises $141.35 to $176.35 and is all-in
AFink93: calls $94 and is all-in
bluffblocker: folds
*** TURN *** [7h 5h 8d] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [7h 5h 8d 2d] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
x-Amadon-x: shows [5c 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
AFink93: shows [7d 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
AFink93 collected $277 from pot
POKERSTARS GAME #9242570437: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/04/04 - 01:33:45 (ET)
Table 'Peiraios IV' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: 2Hotti ($200 in chips)
Seat 2: Pipedream17 ($238.45 in chips)
Seat 3: NutsInYoEye ($198 in chips)
Seat 4: WhaleCrap ($203.30 in chips)
Seat 5: treysfull21 ($226 in chips)
Seat 6: Earyda ($74.60 in chips)
Seat 8: AFink93 ($212 in chips)
Seat 9: hellflopboy ($142.05 in chips)
hellflopboy: posts small blind $1
2Hotti: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AFink93 [Js Jc]
Pipedream17: folds
NutsInYoEye: raises $5 to $7
WhaleCrap: folds
treysfull21: folds
Earyda: folds
AFink93: calls $7
hellflopboy: folds
2Hotti: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jd 8s 6d]
NutsInYoEye: bets $10
AFink93: calls $10
*** TURN *** [Jd 8s 6d] [Jh]
NutsInYoEye: bets $24
AFink93: calls $24
*** RIVER *** [Jd 8s 6d Jh] [5c]
NutsInYoEye: bets $78
AFink93: raises $78 to $156
NutsInYoEye: raises $1 to $157 and is all-in
AFink93: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NutsInYoEye: shows [8c 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Jacks)
AFink93: shows [Js Jc] (four of a kind, Jacks)
AFink93 collected $396 from pot -
Handling Non-Believers
Inevitably, you will run into people who do not believe that internet poker is
rigged. They're just wrong, typically because they are uninformed. People do all kinds
of dumb things because of incomplete information. Think about it.
The pool of ignoramuses is divided into two groups -- those who can be lead to
the truth, and those whose mind cannot be changed by anything short of a bolt of
lightning from the blue. The key thing to do, and this will help you in all aspects of life,
is to determine which of these groups anyone who disagrees with you is in. Anyone in
the latter group should just be ignored. You're probably not a deity with control over the
elements, so don't knock yourself out trying to conjure up a thunderstorm.
As for the former group, reason with them. Give them information. Help them
change their mind. Feel free to pass them a copy of this e-book, at least as long as
you're not sitting at the same poker table. You don't want them beating you with your
strategy, do you? -
ONE
Who Dun It? The Rigging of Internet Poker
Men are so simple and yield so readily to the desires of the moment that he who will
trick will always find another who will suffer to be tricked.
-- Niccolo Machiavelli
Of mankind we may say in general they are fickle, hypocritical, and greedy of gain.
-- Niccolo Machiavelli
There you are. Innocently playing a game of online no limit hold'em. You're
dealt what you believe to be a monster hand. You have two aces (denoted here as AA)!
What do you do? Why, raise, of course! That's what you're supposed to do, according
to the book. Some poor sucker calls you! And another! Wow! This is your chance to
triple the size of your stack!
Here's the flop. AK2 of different suits. Sweet! Bet it out!
Even better, both players come along for the ride.
Turn is a 2. Awesome! Top full house! You bet and some poor sucker raises!
And the other joker comes along once again. It doesn't get any better than this.
You smooth call, planning to break both remaining players on the river.
The river is another King. Okay. Nut full house. Heaven help those villains if
they have an ace, a king or a deuce. You bet, they raise, everybody gets all in.
And you have the worst hand of the three as your opponents show KK and 22.
You rebuy and scream in frustration.
Should you be angry when this happens? Hell yes. The odds against one
opponent having a better hand than you in this situation are large. The odds of two
people having better hands are astronomical. The possibility of having two players stay
in and both improve to quads is incredibly slim.
And yet it happens all the time in internet poker. Why? Because it's rigged.
Think about your own play. Haven't you seen more bizarre suckouts online than
you have in a lifetime of home games and casino play? Where else have you seen
people betting confidently with no pair and no draw only to go runner-runner to beat
your solid flopped hand?
Our analysis of dozens of hands clearly proves that this type of action happens
online far more often than it should. That's right, proof that internet poker is rigged.
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Yes...because this only happens online. You never see set over set in a live game.
Oh wait...anyone see Hansen vs Negreanu quads vs quads in HSP. Maybe that was rigged too. -
That was one hand out of the 4 years the show has been on. Irrevalant. Cannot compare to constant on-line. Nice try
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ooppssss WSOP rigged quad aces lost to str flush.
CHrist no one is safe anymore -
Yo guys the Bad Beat jackpots at the local Casino get up to anywhere from 60K to 165K and are rarely won. Proof is how high they build up. If it was on line with only the same amont of tables at the casino to make it even. On-line the jackpot would hit probably every hour. LOL LMAO You guys are clueless, one day when you find out, the fall is going to land real hard for you.
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While I'm sure everyone will say yeah alot more hands dealt online, it is BS. Especially PHUCKUSTARS.
Unreal amount of setup hands, small stacked 80%-90% dominators getting knocked off 80% against monster stacks to whittle down the tourneys and have you join more.....
I WALKED TODAY FROM stars. FUCK THAT SITE. -
I see not everyone has blindfolds Good Post. And very good insight.
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