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PLease explain your attmept to give all your chips away with 37 left as chip leader in the $300..
pokerstars Game #11058717121: Tournament #55434264, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/07/21 - 15:58:42 (ET)
Table '55434264 7' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: KvGalen (11410 in chips)
Seat 4: Vinkel (26739 in chips)
Seat 5: zangbezan24 (46096 in chips)
Seat 6: pastika (33554 in chips)
Seat 7: mkind0516 (10400 in chips)
Seat 8: Ynenk03 (22173 in chips)
Seat 9: copi (21830 in chips)
KvGalen: posts the ante 50
Vinkel: posts the ante 50
zangbezan24: posts the ante 50
pastika: posts the ante 50
mkind0516: posts the ante 50
Ynenk03: posts the ante 50
copi: posts the ante 50
copi: posts small blind 300
KvGalen: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ynenk03 [5h 5c]
Vinkel: folds
zangbezan24: raises 1000 to 1600
pastika: folds
mkind0516: folds
Ynenk03: calls 1600
copi: folds
KvGalen: folds
*** FLOP *** [5d 2d 8h]
zangbezan24: bets 3000
Ynenk03: raises 4800 to 7800
zangbezan24: raises 36646 to 44446 and is all-in
Ynenk03: calls 12723 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5d 2d 8h] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [5d 2d 8h 8d] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zangbezan24: shows [7s 8s] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
Ynenk03: shows [5h 5c] (a full house, Fives full of Eights)
zangbezan24 said, "sick gg"
zangbezan24 collected 45496 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 45496 | Rake 0
Board [5d 2d 8h 8d 2s]
Seat 2: KvGalen (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Vinkel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: zangbezan24 showed [7s 8s] and won (45496) with a full house, Eights full of Deuces
Seat 6: pastika folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mkind0516 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Ynenk03 (button) showed [5h 5c] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Eights
Seat 9: copi (small blind) folded before Flop -
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seriously tho it's pretty sick -
I cannot speak for him by any means by why is that if a very well known player sucks out or "gets lucky" the entire community needs to be notified of said play. Please make sure you call out all players who make plays such as this not just the ones who are ranked.
Also any post that is a titled by name of player I always would think since you want that person's response you would pm them, but let me guess you want to publicly chastise or at least make an attempt to publicly chastise a player. I guess you have been sent on life tilt from this beat, and yeah it really does suck. But is it really necessary and needed to call someone out just to make yourself feel better.
ktksbye
also bad beats section maybe...oh wait I don't think you put it there since you would def get more hits in PD
sighaments..sorry for rant but this seems to happen on daily basis...someone make hugesuckout feels compeled since highly ranked player to attempt to chastise them etc.
GL Ynenk03 -
LOL queso yeah i was gonna say it is hard to give someone all of your chips or attempt to give them all away when you have said player covered...
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he was probably thinking you thought he was c-betting so he shoved to your flop raise. Maybe you arent one to put in 8K out of 20K chips on a resteal but there are a lot of players who do and its a great chance to pick up big pots without showing down hands.
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please do not move this or mention the bad beat forum... i want to know from him what he was thinking. thank you
if you really wanted his input on this hand you would have sent him a PM and not put this HH on display for all to see...but like I said you wanted everyone to see this HH, this bad beat and want him to post his response in said thread so can try and attack him....hammer meet nail...oh hi der hit it right on the head.. -
damn he beat me to it.
Hell i'll still post this anyway
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well id like to know what he was thinking.
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Spell his name right in the title or he might not respond.
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Yeah, you don't see too many "I got owned by (insert top pro here)" threads.
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oh by the way
37 left and 27 pay...you had to have a monster, which you had to be able to call off the rest of your chips.. if you had 66 and he lakes the same play on you and you muck, he looks like a genius right, nd if you call off rest of stack with 66, also looks like a genius, but that fact that you actually did have a monster and then got bad beat..major suckout very unlucky is why you seem to have a bitter taste in your mouth
hmmm chip leader 10 away from the money, Zang is probably making this play all day everyday and twice in a Saturday 320, oh wait...since in most spots you can't call...middle set you OBV call
GG very unlcuky, next time like I said if you truly on want his input send a PM
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if you want to say hes complaining about a bad beat, youd be wrong, but i guess i could understand someone sayin that.
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ok well he's a laggy player and he's got a stack and its very near the money so raising 87s is definately a play he'd make their pf. so then you called
then he made what looks like a continuation bet on a board that seems unlikely that he would hit. and then you raised his apparent continuation bet whcih doesnt necessarily mean you have a good hand here, not nearly that you had as strong a hand as you had.
so then since he actually had a hand and since you might not have much and since the pots got some $$ in it and since ur nearing the money he shoves over, and he may even get a call from a hand as weak as a flush draw, a pp like 77 or 66, a straight draw, or even a hero call with like AK, alll of which he's ahead of.
your play throughout the hand didnt represent nearly the level of strength you had, and his play is fine, and what do you care? you want this play every day with your set. move on -
Umm...obv did'nt think that flop did anything for you do you realy need to whine here about this?? He put it in willing to lose obv...and had he all you would have got was GH and GG from him..why...because he understands the game is full of beats and he only cares about 1st place!
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Imp probably tought his hand was deceptive and that you weren't giving him credit for hitting that flop or an overpair. How would you have played this hand if you had 77? Flat call flop?
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A+++++++ Would read again!!!
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So you got sucked out on and are bitter that's so unreal.
Why does anyone have to explain their play?? The phone could have rang and he sd " ship it I'm busy" whatever. His results speak for themselves but coming on the board to whine about your bad beat and have him explain? Ha ha. Obv. from the below quote you are bitter and a whiner. Great players make marginal shoves ,bad shoves or great shoves they aren't robots. Everyday some great player has a hand like this you don't see every loser posting asking why.
"Thats good... Commend him for being grossly outplayed and being a top-pair whore" This quote tells me all I needed to know about why you started this thread. your indignant you got sucked out on. -
all anybody has done is given you input..you called out him instead of Pm'ing him...you send him a PM none of us "the experts" even chime in
you start a thread in PD where you are posting a bad beat or asking for one person's response in a public forum, clearly use of PM needed then expect to get the responses that you did....like I said elsewhere in this thread if you had 66 and you called off your chips 10 away from the money...you would not be making a post asking what his thinking was....you did however prett much because you bubbled a $300 tourney and have been sent on life tilt and are demanding answers from him in public forum rather than in proper manner.
Just my 2 cents, you created this thread therefore you need to accept the good, bad and possibly ugly that goes with that. Nobody is swingin off anyone's nuts in this thread, people are giving you input since after all you posted this on a public forum, even though you only wanted an answer from one person.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^Queso I do not think anybody including Zang and he was in the hand could have given a better answer. That is a very thorough and very carefully calculated and analyzed answer from a great poker mind. Very nice. i already respected your game a ton, now even more. very nice analysis GG Ynenk










