Originally Posted by kellykip

And to anyone who thinks Oregon State is gonna beat Oregon, I do not see that. I've probably seen every snap of every OSU game this year, and I'm really impressed, but Oregon is gonna run a train on them.

Crazy shit happens in these games esp when the underdog has home field. Def most worried about this game even though OSU isn't the best team we have left to play.

 

Originally Posted by Bawsten

someone reputable gunna have to hold im not shipping to jus annone

I will hold if I can get a piece of his part of the bet.


Give me 200 of the action and xped. Is that cool? Just to clarify, I am not asking for a free piece. If we lose I owe 200 of the 500 owed to bawsten.

Notre Dame is being an asshole

 

Originally Posted by ohiogary

Our Buckeyes would be seventh. Atleast according to the Plain Dealer.

1. Alabama .9761

2. Florida .9092

3. Oregon .8993

4. Kansas State .8963

5. Notre Dame .8774

6. LSU .7522

7. Ohio State .7393

8. South Carolina .6930

9. Oregon State .6808

10. Oklahoma .6664

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.s...e_rank_in.html

Now for if they would be worthy or not. Record wise indeed they would be. That's the only way though, as they're definitely not a top team at this time. Got our FB playing at LB right now if that tells you anything about the defense. I really expect some changes coaching wise during the off season with probably Luke Fickell getting the boot. Over seven games the d has given up more points than the 2002 season allowed over fourteen games!

Urban said even though he doesn't want to he will be more involved with the d this week as something needs to change. My opinion is our corners are good enough to play up on the line. D-line at times hasn't gotten pressure on the opposing QB , and that's never good as even an average QB with time to throw will hurt you no matter what type of talent is behind. My main concern is the missed tackles.

The future is bright as Urban will not accept this. He said after the game Saturday " We win as a team, and we win as a team " . Therefore, he does not accept failure.

WTF does this have to do with coaching? Their entire starting LB corp is out with injuries, thats why their FB is playing LB right now. It's not like he replaced a healthy body. And why OSUs defense is so soft right now.

It was the beginning of the end for Michigan's defense a few years back as well. Rich Rod stopped getting the Grade A, Big Ten style LBs and the defense fell apart as a result. Not sure how much the scandal has impacted OSUs recruiting, but they need to get some Katzenmoyer/Hawk types in their ASAP, or else continue to play "Oregon-ball" and plan on trying to outscore the opponents instead of stopping them.

They should have depth at the position, but they clearly do not. That's why they are moving a FB over to play there on defense. Blaming the coaching is a red herring. Even at full strength, this was going to be OSUs weakest LB group in many, many years, and now with the injuries and lack of depth, they are seriously impacting the defense. This could be the result of the Pryor scandal and a recruiting falloff the last 2 years, but we'll see what Meyer can do to correct things.

One thing is for sure, the O/U on the OSU/Mich game needs to be about 80 pts.

 

Originally Posted by B_O_K_E

You are an idiot. No possible way it would ever be under 10. Very very slim chance its under 15.
If Vegas set the line at 9...99% of the action would be on Bama.

This, ND wouldnt score 10 pts vs Bama and would get slaughtered. This line is easily 15+ as mentioned. Thats what makes those SEC schools so tough to beat in BCS bowls, because these teams in weak conferences show up and all of a sudden these guys are bigger and faster then anybody youve played so far, and theyre really good on both sides of the ball. Common opponent is Michigan (Bama neutral vs ND at home and weve all seen those games). Not gonna matter anyway, ND loses @ OU and @ USC.

I think I am ok with UF at #2, only other team Id argue is KState as of now. Its pretty brutal for basically every team the rest of the way out. Bama for being in the SEC seems to have the easiest of all the SEC teams as they only have to face LSU until the SEC champ game. They get TAMU at home and and Miss St at home (who is 12 in bcs and hasnt beaten a top 50 or 60 team yet).

IDK, the way these computers and rankings are set up its pretty easy to see two SEC schools playing for the title again (and once again a team that isnt even a conference champion).

 

Originally Posted by Tread

Not sure how much the scandal has impacted OSUs recruiting, but they need to get some Katzenmoyer/Hawk types in their ASAP.

Too bad all the top LBs in Ohio are coming north these days

As long as Bama wins out, this will play itself out. If Bama loses @ LSU or in the SEC title game, then all hell is going to break loose as to what 1 loss teams deserve the chance to play for the title.

 

Originally Posted by ohiogary

Change of recruiting strategy. Meyer so far has commitments from Ohio, New Jersey, South Carolina, Maryland, Florida, Texas, Missouri, California, Indiana and North Carolina. When before OSU would get most of the top Ohio talent, it's different now as Meyer is going after some of the top national players.

None of whom are linebackers, which was my point. And McCray and Gedeon are def. "top national players," despite being from Ohio. Not good to let guys like this slip out from your backyard

McCray
Rivals - 4*, #81 overall
247 - 4*, #181 overall
ESPN - 4*, #84 overall
Scout - 4*, #304 overall

Gedeon
Rivals - 4*, unranked
247 - 4*, #179 overall
ESPN - 4*, #280 overall
Scout - 4*, #163 overall

Pretty crazy how much talk about the big ten there is in a thread that is basically irrelevant to the conference.

Yep just double checked, not one big ten team on that list.

 

Originally Posted by Lord Supremo

I know this, my point is lol OSU going after Floridian 3* because they got raped for in-state 4*s by Big Blue

This is probably not the time to be picking on OSU's current/future recruiting, as the majority of the 4/5*'s will lean towards OSU over Michigan as long as Meyer is around imo (and I like Hoke a lot)

 

Originally Posted by ohiogary

What is there to really discuss, Matt? Alabama is the best and will most likely win another national title then there's everyone else..

Lord, well, you win some and lose some. Just 'cause they're in-state doesn't mean you will get them. Example i guess could be Hankins as he's from Michigan and plays for OSU.

mehhh, might be true. I think they lose a game though, hopefully @LSU

 

Originally Posted by MarkFSU1

This, ND wouldnt score 10 pts vs Bama and would get slaughtered. This line is easily 15+ as mentioned. Thats what makes those SEC schools so tough to beat in BCS bowls, because these teams in weak conferences show up and all of a sudden these guys are bigger and faster then anybody youve played so far, and theyre really good on both sides of the ball. Common opponent is Michigan (Bama neutral vs ND at home and weve all seen those games). Not gonna matter anyway, ND loses @ OU and @ USC.

your main point holds no water on ND this year. i mean there are some arguments for the point you are trying to make, but this argument is probably the worst route you could go. ND is playing the toughest schedule in the nation this year and it really isn't debatable. If those two teams met, ND would def not be put off b/c bama was "bigger and better" than anyone they have played.

that being said, ND's front 7 is disgustingly awesome to watch.

 

Originally Posted by FTWDomer

b/c bama was "bigger and better" than anyone they have played.

First off...let me get it out of the way that I'm a Big Ten fan. Secondly, if you think playing Michigan and Michigan State are going to prepare you for Alabama, just LOL.

It's extremely unlikely that Notre Dame somehow makes it through OU and USC undefeated. But, if it happens, there is a very good reason why people are guessing the line to be -17.

Notre Dame would be put to pasture by a vastly superior team. Even at the end of your schedule, you still haven't played an SEC team...so no, your rough schedule doesn't prepare you for the anus raping you would end up taking in NC game.

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

First off...let me get it out of the way that I'm a Big Ten fan. Secondly, if you think playing Michigan and Michigan State are going to prepare you for Alabama, just LOL.

It's extremely unlikely that Notre Dame somehow makes it through OU and USC undefeated. But, if it happens, there is a very good reason why people are guessing the line to be -17.

Notre Dame would be put to pasture by a vastly superior team. Even at the end of your schedule, you still haven't played an SEC team...so no, your rough schedule doesn't prepare you for the anus raping you would end up taking in NC game.

Yup.