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  1. Geoff Moore Geoff Moore is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 3:18pm)

    The debate starts at 1:02:00 of the vid.:

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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:10pm) in reply to Geoff Moore

    this was a cool thing he did. long live larry king
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:14pm) in reply to downbylaw11

    it's pretty irritating that 3rd parties aren't in the regular debates.
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:17pm) in reply to kmc28

     
    Originally Posted by kmc28 View Post

    it's pretty irritating that 3rd parties aren't in the regular debates.


    Irritating? The fact that the "two" major parties have conspired to restrict ballot and media access to anyone who is not approved by them makes the whole process a farce.
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:28pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    Agreed. How do you change that though? Outside of the 2 major parties, no candidates get much of any airtime whatsoever, much less debate time. I honestly didn't even know the other candidates till I took that questionaire on isidewith.com (95% with Gary Johnson, fyi).
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:49pm) in reply to kmc28

    I think it's embarrassing how willing so many people are to participate in an obviously corrupt situation (the two party system). Not just the voters but the people behind the scenes pulling the strings and maintaining the current status quo.

    money is way too overvalued in our society imo
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 8:56pm) in reply to kmc28

     
    Originally Posted by kmc28 View Post

    Agreed. How do you change that though? Outside of the 2 major parties, no candidates get much of any airtime whatsoever, much less debate time. I honestly didn't even know the other candidates till I took that questionaire on isidewith.com (95% with Gary Johnson, fyi).


    The Constitution should have prevented it from happening but judges are too weak on striking down unconstitutional law. So Democrat and Republican leadership in each state came up with all kinds of ways to make it harder for third parties to get on the ballot. Then the Democrats and Republicans at the national level conspired to create the Commission on Presidential Debates which pretty much has a monopoly on providing a debating forum over national media. Debates used to be run by independent groups such as the League of Women Voters. Therefore they then made the rules for getting in to the debates so restrictive so as to make sure it almost never happens, Perot being an example of the exception. So once you control media and ballot access, you control the government. Now they can run people with the same policies on each side of the ticket and just force us to effectively choose between two people of similar ideology who are beholden to the same money interests.
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 11:47pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    The biggest value in having someone like Gary Johnson in a debate with the R and D candidates isn't that they'd get to espouse their own views on the issues but rather that they'd be able to demonstrate how astonishingly similar the other 2 candidates really are. The level of squirming when subjects like indefinite detention, kill lists, drone strikes, medicare, marijuana, etc. would reach very high levels. The two parties rely on silencing the debate on these issues that really matter. A third voice that can can be deemed credible by the low information voter. This is conjecture but I imagine when low information voters see Gary Johnson they don't think one iota about seriously voting for him. Red and blue are the only credible and viable choices they think they have. Until these voters see other alternatives as viable and credible we're fucked.

    Its too bad our democracy is set up to give the most power to the voters who know the least about what's going on. Too bad the only solution is to induce these voters into wanting to learn more, something that can't be fixed overnight.
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 11:50pm) in reply to winwin07

    I had no idea about this...I walk around with blinders on FFS...

    But I do remember Ross Perot being in a debate with two others...No??

    "Can I finish"

    See..right there..I would have not even known about Ross Perot if it wasn't for Dana Carvey. sighhhhh.... I suck.
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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 11:57pm) in reply to Sandman_Good

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    Oct 24th, 2012 (10/24/2012 11:58pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    How interesting would it be if instead of going to the voting booth to vote for a candidate, you filled out some questionnaire like they have on www.isidewith.com, and whichever candidate you agree with on the most issues is the person your vote is casted for (obv it'd tell you who it is.).
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    Oct 25th, 2012 (10/25/2012 12:04am) in reply to kmc28

    FTR.... I did watch all three debates tho. I try.
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    Oct 25th, 2012 (10/25/2012 12:07am) in reply to Sandman_Good

    Wouldn't this be the 3rd-6th party candidate debate?
     
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    Oct 25th, 2012 (10/25/2012 12:14am) in reply to Dyzalot

    Jill Stein might as well run for the communist party. Johnson made the most of his time, although I didn't quite get his remark when he was talking about term limits, almost seemed like he said of his own first time that he purposely didn't serve as he wanted to because he wanted to be reelected.
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    Oct 25th, 2012 (10/25/2012 12:17am) in reply to krispycream

     

    The Free and Equal Elections Foundation has announced plans to host a second debate between third-party presidential candidates on Oct. 30 in Washington, following up on a similar event the group hosted Tuesday night in Chicago. Registered viewers of the previous debate, which was shown online via Ora TV’s You Tube channel, will select two candidates from the last debate to participate in the next round, using instant runoff voting to choose the contestants.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-in-the-works/
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    Oct 25th, 2012 (10/25/2012 11:45pm) in reply to Dyzalot

    Just LOL at the audience booing the conservative guy saying he wouldn't legalize weed. Shocker! There are conservative alternative candidates
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