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  1. time4badbeat time4badbeat is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:38am)

    Why is abortion legal in the sense that a woman should have a right to choose what she does with her body yet drugs are illegal?

    Also, shouldn't we treat abortion in the same way as our legal system treats someone accused of a crime.

    Our legal system is set up so that we are more likely to let a criminal free than convict an innocent.

    Shouldn't abortion be the same in that we don't know when life begins, so shouldn't we error on the side of caution and outlaw abortion so that we don't allow the killing of babies?
    Edited By: time4badbeat Jan 20th, 2012 at 02:39 AM
     
  2. zeppelinzoso16 zeppelinzoso16 is offline world traveler

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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:44am) in reply to time4badbeat

    This is going to go well
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:45am) in reply to zeppelinzoso16

    awwww shit
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:47am) in reply to kmc28

    Sorry I already locked up politard thread of the day
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:47am) in reply to Goldenad

    We know life begins at 40, so we should be allowed to kill anyone younger than that.

    EDIT: If you want to reduce the number of abortions (because you aren't getting rid of it), make it so that the father must also agree to the abortion. This would require time (to do the DNA testing) as well as being cost prohibitive (because the woman would have to pay for that testing).
    Edited By: SpankyHamm Jan 20th, 2012 at 02:49 AM
     
  6. time4badbeat time4badbeat is offline

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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:49am) in reply to SpankyHamm

    How is it legal for a woman to murder their fetus but if someone murders a pregnant woman they committed two murders?
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:50am) in reply to time4badbeat

    Case law please where someone is charged with those 2 counts when the woman was in her first trimester (or prior to the cutoff date for legal abortions).
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 2:52am) in reply to SpankyHamm

    make the father take care (meaning raise, like live with kid full time, like women do today) of all unwanted pregnancies by law

    unwanted pregnancy rate would go way down
    Edited By: jesterwords Jan 20th, 2012 at 02:52 AM
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 3:06am) in reply to SpankyHamm

     
    Originally Posted by SpankyHamm View Post

    We know life begins at 40, so we should be allowed to kill anyone younger than that.

    EDIT: If you want to reduce the number of abortions (because you aren't getting rid of it), make it so that the father must also agree to the abortion. This would require time (to do the DNA testing) as well as being cost prohibitive (because the woman would have to pay for that testing).

    I had a buddy back in the day that had to go to court to relinquish all rights to his unborn baby. The baby came out black, my friend is white.

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    How is it legal for a woman to murder their fetus but if someone murders a pregnant woman they committed two murders?

    wow...good point. I think it's how far along the woman is in her pregancy though.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 3:07am) in reply to jesterwords

     
    Originally Posted by jesterwords View Post

    make the father take care (meaning raise, like live with kid full time, like women do today) of all unwanted pregnancies by law

    unwanted pregnancy rate would go way down

    sounds like a healthy environment to raise a child
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 3:08am) in reply to zeppelinzoso16

    I'm not to be taken seriously there.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 3:11am) in reply to jesterwords

    This is a level attempt.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 3:32am) in reply to El Burro

    is it that time of year again?
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:00am) in reply to Mr. Blonde

    well my stance on the issue is i'm not trying to make the decision for everybody, therefore, i'm pro-choice.

    however, i'm against abortion and think it's an abomination of society. people get liquored up and fuck recklessly, then decide it's inconvenient, and just hit "re-set" on the situation.

    what kind of person see's such a polarizing issue and thinks they are qualified to unilaterally decide the question for everybody?
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:04am) in reply to gjallen1975

    let's not dredge up the dukakis campaign again. I only read thread title.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:06am) in reply to time4badbeat

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    Why is abortion legal in the sense that a woman should have a right to choose what she does with her body yet drugs are illegal?

    He's absolutely right. We need to change our drug laws.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:18am) in reply to fly44

    OP, what if the pregnancy is a result of a rape? Or the condom broke or whatever other method of birth control they were using fails?

    What if they have ended the relationship the pregnancy was conceived in?

    Just because you are physically able to reproduce, doesn't mean you should.So many points for and against depending on your religion, background, family and even income.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:22am) in reply to C_Bomb

    lol, this thread is pretty sweet.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 5:28am) in reply to Lord Supremo

    solid op

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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 10:23am) in reply to TheWacoKidd

     
    Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd View Post


     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 12:32pm) in reply to qjuice14

    Love it qjuice
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 12:33pm) in reply to time4badbeat

    If you are pro life you should be anti death penalty imo
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 12:49pm) in reply to niptuck

     
    Originally Posted by niptuck View Post

    If you are pro life you should be anti death penalty imo

    Not really, you are pro innocent baby not being killed and pro evil being killed
     
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 12:53pm) in reply to time4badbeat

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    Not really, you are pro innocent baby not being killed and pro evil being killed

    Or you are simply anti the helpless being killed. If an evil person locked up forever, suffering and helpless...why kill them?

    This position allows you to kill threats (like in war or personal protection) but not people who are not a threat. Killing anyone is wrong if they are helpless. Vengence is an ugly thing.
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    Jan 20th, 2012 (1/20/2012 12:58pm) in reply to time4badbeat

     
    Originally Posted by time4badbeat View Post

    Not really, you are pro innocent baby not being killed and pro evil being killed

    Then you aren't really "pro-life". You are just anti-abortion. Ron Paul is an example of what it truly means to be pro life.
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