Im really interested where and why all these Flacco nut huggers rank him in NFL starters this year.

 

Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd

Eli is a top notch playmaker. Flacco is not. simple stuff here

yea obv, but i still get his comparison. i really didn't hear much when ryan had whatever shitty stats he ended up with this year. or the years past. romo def gets goated with dallas failures. don't hear to much about rivers when they fall short, its always norvs fault(but obv it is just norvs fault).

nobody is gonna even level and say flacco is a top 8 qb. id put him comfortable around 9-13.

theres brees rodgers brady and well say peyton manning assuming he comes back as good as he was

then id say rivers, stafford big ben eli

after that, i think you can argue between cam, vick, cutler flacco, schaub, romo, and im prob taking flacco over schaub vick cutler and romo(and if youve seen my posts about romo i always defend him and say hes a great qb).

next drop off im putting alex smith, bradford, dalton, and so forth and so on

 

Originally Posted by TheWacoKidd

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umm, it matters when the specific argument is that Flacco is an average QB, and that you think he is better because of his team's success. we are saying that his team's success would be even greater if they had better than an average QB. how is that hard to follow?

I said IF i agreed with you that flacco was average, theyd still be better of than any other team in the NFL. But I don't I think hes slightly above average. how hard is it to follow acknowledge that if every single team fixed something that isn't a strength they would be better?

I mean, what if you put sanchize or henne or orton on the ravens? how much worse are they gonna be? i doubt much worse because its the same situation, they ask flacco to give ray rice the ball and not fuck up too much and theyll be in it vs any team. That doesn't mean he is as bad as sanchize or worse than romo, its just how the ravens ball.

either way i seriously can't argue anymore, im sick as shit and i need to sleep. sending ur monies now you lucky bastard

@jroth hmm, rodgers has worse completion %, less yards, but has a better WPA?(obv rodgers is gonna contribute to more wins, but im just saying)

My buddy's gf had a catch with him on the beach in Avalon this summer. I witnessed it. She caught EVERY ball. Don't you think a top tier or even above average QB shouldn't have a 5'6 125 lbs jewish broad catch lasers from 25 yds out?

 

Originally Posted by tkeat1653

My buddy's gf had a catch with him on the beach in Avalon this summer. I witnessed it. She caught EVERY ball. Don't you think a top tier or even above average QB shouldn't have a 5'6 125 lbs jewish broad catch lasers from 25 yds out?

What else did she catch from him?

Oh yeah, and Sean needs to calm down. Everywhere I read, people are saying Flacco had a good game, but his cocky response after the game, and the fact that his team lost, takes away from it.

 

Originally Posted by edwardt1988

What else did she catch from him?

maybe some sand i dunno. it was on the beach dude. she went to udel so she knew him from college so i'm guessing at some point she gave him a handy

 

Originally Posted by FenwayKing

hahahahah that rapes

see im not all THAT bad.

 

Originally Posted by sean614

Eli last week vs Packers - 21/33 330 yds 63.1% 3 TD 1 INT 114.5 passer rating

Joe Flacco yesterday vs Pats 22/36 306 yds 61% 2TD 1 INT 95.4 passer rating

Both played vs weak passing defenses, both played pretty similar. Eli gets all the praise when he had 1 more TD (see: Hail mary at the end of half) and Joe gets the "well the defense was defending the run" yada yada and because of 1 less TD (see: Lee Evans dropping ball).

GIVE UP THE HATE.

yea, but one was winning pretty much all game and the other was losing... also why flacco in no way outplayed tom brady.

 

Originally Posted by lance814

it's funny b/c flacco in the AFC is an average to slightly above average qb. flacco in the NFC would maybe start for 6 teams.

come on, that's a ridiculous point. Of course teams wouldn't give up a hopeful future franchise qb, even if Flacco is better right now. It's not even in terms of rankings. Is Peyton Manning better than Big Ben? Yes. Would Pittsburgh get rid of Big Ben right now for Manning? No. What a stupid ass point you're trying to make.

Some NFC QBs he's comparable to or better than: Bradford, Jackson, Kolb, Smith, Freeman, Newton, Ryan, Ponder, Culter, Sexy Rexy, Romo, Vick.

People take football too seriously.

Ah who the fuck am I kidding; I was the same way with the Saints and LSU this year :(

*edit* Except I was screaming for Gregg Williams, and the Lee/Jefferson QB tandem to get 'cut'. Thankfully, I got my wish and all three are gone.

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

At least he's rational by the end of the vid...

i know someone who won't be asked back to the next flacco family bbq...

Wow that vid of the Ravens fan was golden

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

At least he's rational by the end of the vid...

LOL solid quote jroth

 

Originally Posted by lance814

I'd take all the bolded before flacco any day. Smith is the closest, but takes care of the ball. Romo, Newton, Vick, Ryan is pretty laughable though. All i was saying is overall he is an average to slightly below average qb and it's crazy how much better overall the qbs are in the NFC. Not sure what's so stupid about that. Your hypothetical is idiotic in its own right. What is the point you are trying to make?

edit: just noticed you are from baltimore...explains a lot.

i didn't say he was better than them, i said he is comparable to them.

Smith takes care of the ball? This year maybe. Coming into this season he had more INTs than TDs. If he can keep it up it's still arguable between them. I agree he had a solid year, but that's it. 1 solid year. I'm sure you were riding Freeman after last year, like you are Smith right now.

Flacco hasn't had a bad year his entire career. He's just solid. He's played every game of every season and has always thrown more TDs than INTs. I'll take that over most of the other guys in the league. I'm mean, Eli had 30 turnovers last year, now he's Elite.

I know Flacco has plenty to improve upon. Pocket presence. Ball security. Going through his progressions. But he doesn't deserve the criticism he gets, mostly because he's not the face of the franchise until Lewis and Reed retire, and probably Suggs and Ngata. Hell, he may never be, which is why he's looked at like he is. He lost it for Ray Lewis' team. I'm sure that's the perception after every loss.

 

Originally Posted by Chrono

i didn't say he was better than them, i said he is comparable to them.

people have been saying all year that cam newton reminds them of joe flacco.

 

Originally Posted by sean614

Eli- gets praise for his performance
Joe- does not get praise for his performance.

looooooool at comparing Eli's playoff performances to Joe fucko

Eli is 7-2 in his playoff career with 5 road wins and 2 super bowl appearances.
Fucko is 4-4 or some shit (i think) with 0 super bowl appearances and notable duds in the NFC championship last year and other losses. He fucking sucks, he gets sacked way too much and he's just not that good. GET OFF HIS DICK!!!!!

 

Originally Posted by hookey91

i feel his pain even as a pats fan. so much fun going on youtube finding all the reactions of the muffed kick.

LOL...poor fucking guy that's good shit.

 

Originally Posted by FistFights

looooooooooooooool