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I dont think LT is/was better than MArshall Faulk or Emmitt Smith or Eric Dickerson for that matter.
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Not to mention Brown's "seasons" were only 14 games. Try adding that to your formula.
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I'm a Cowboys fan so take my ranking fwiw
1 Jim Brown
2 Barry Sanders
3 Walter Payton
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so he pwnd every1. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Obviously a respectable list. Personally though, I just feel like there's a certain point where LT just has soooooooo many more yards per season and soooooo many more TDs per season than people like payton, emmit etc., that it becomes absurd to not put him ahead of them.
Originally Posted by R_U_Nuts
I'm a Cowboys fan so take my ranking fwiw
1 Jim Brown
2 Barry Sanders
3 Walter Payton
4 Emmit Smith
5 Eric dickerson
However, it looks like LT is pretty much done for the most part, and if he puts together some mediocre seasons to end his career, maybe i'll feel differently. It looks as if the Chargers are probably done with him though, and he may just end up getting Marvin Harrisonned with him not wanting to take a pay cut, and teams probably not wanting to pay that much for a 31 year old RB. -
I think Jim Brown is the best back ever but Barry Sanders was the most exciting back ever.
I was bummed when Detroit wouldn't let Barry go to a contender so he decided to retire prematurely. He was sooooo fun to watch!
Bo was a supa freak there's no telling how good he could have been if he didn't mess up his hip. -
Yeah Brown was a freak and ahead of his time, he was too fast for the lineman and too strong for the secondary.
The NFL had never seen a big back with high end speed, he was literally like Terrell Davis or Bo Jackson playing against guys that were the size of high school players today. -
I never saw Brown play but I have seen game footage and from stats and what people that have played against him have said, he is my #1.
Everyone else on my list are backs that I have seen play. Sanders and Peyton are the 2 best I have seen and it is debatable who was better, but I personally go with Sanders.
4-10 can be placed in pretty much any order imo because they all were great backs and I just think its too close to say who was better then the other. Like I said these are not in any order, just who I would personally have in my top 10:
LT
Earl Campbell
Emmit Smith
Dickerson
Marshall Faulk
Curtis Martin
Tony Dorsett
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Not trying to be a jerk, but dividing yards/TDs by number of seasons is an incredibly shortsighted and skewed way of showing the best.
There's a fairly significant difference between being the statistical best and the skilled best RBs out there.
FWIW, I like R U Nuts' list the best and would probably rank them the exact same way.
LaDainian shouldn't even be mentioned in that group, IMO. -
AP is a bad bad man. He runs as hard as any rb I have ever seen play.
He is a bit fragile but he owns the single game record for a reason. Obv too young to be considered amongst the all time greats right now tho. -
I have never once heard this from ANYONE. IMO he is the best every just because he was literally the only thing the D had to key on and still did his thing. Yeah I know Herman Moore and Brett Perryman, but seriously?
Originally Posted by RoyalCrusher
its wayyy too hard to evaluate running backs and not worth it to argue them imo. barry sanders and AP are the most impressive backs i have seen just in terms of the eye test but <span>ive heard from a lot of ppl i consider smart that barry was hella overrated</span>, so who knows
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The best RB and who had the best career are two different questions, that being said everything included its obv JIM BROWN. But for 1 season Bo Jackson so obv.
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Anybody that ever called Sanders overrated was smoking sherm stick or crack (possibly both at the same time)
Sanders has a career avg of 5 yds plus which is totally insane considering that he had to run against 30 men in the box on practically every play. Because defenses keyed on him so hard he had a lot of negative carries but more often than not he would turn what shoulda been a 5 yard loss into a 50 yard scamper.
I used to say he ran like a crab because he could change directions so fast. Chris Johnson reminds me a lil bit of Barry because of his ability to make so many people miss. -
I'm sorry, but that's totally absurd. It's not just statistics. He was the dominant RB in the league for many consecutive years. The guy put up 1200+ yards each year for his first 7 years just rushing. He catches 58 passes a year. He ran for 1600 + and caught 100 passes for 700 + yards in the same year once...probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from a RB.
Originally Posted by BigGunX
Not trying to be a jerk, but dividing yards/TDs by number of seasons is an incredibly shortsighted and skewed way of showing the best.
There's a fairly significant difference between being the statistical best and the skilled best RBs out there.
FWIW, I like R U Nuts' list the best and would probably rank them the exact same way.
LaDainian shouldn't even be mentioned in that group, IMO.
Jim Brown/Barry Sanders/Tomlinson are clearly the tier 1 of all time running backs. IMO you have a significant dropoff between them, and the tier 2 of emmit/payton/dickerson etc. -
the arguments ive heard against barry (not necessarily saying that i agree) are that he was next to worthless in the red zone/3rd and short, is the alltime leader in negative yards from scrimmage, constantly put his offense into 3rd and longs, was a poor pass blocker, and choked in the playoffs (lol sample size)
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He just played for a horrible team. If he had played for Dallas he woulda put up the most ridiculous numbers ever.
Originally Posted by RoyalCrusher
the arguments ive heard against barry (not necessarily saying that i agree) are that he was next to worthless in the red zone/3rd and short, is the alltime leader in negative yards from scrimmage, constantly put his offense into 3rd and longs, was a poor pass blocker, and choked in the playoffs (lol sample size)
Blocking wasn't exactly his strength but he was certainly an adequate blocker and his red zone shortcomings were mainly due to teams stacking 600 men in the box.
LOL their offense was always in 3rd and long that certainly wasn't Barry's fault. Without him they might not have ever even won a game during those years. -
Word. Choking in the playoffs? Really? His team was AWFUL, and they were playing playoff caliber opponents.
Originally Posted by slizza420
He just played for a horrible team. If he had played for Dallas he woulda put up the most ridiculous numbers ever.
Blocking wasn't exactly his strength but he was certainly an adequate blocker and his red zone shortcomings were mainly due to teams stacking 600 men in the box.
LOL their offense was always in 3rd and long that certainly wasn't Barry's fault. Without him they might not have ever even won a game during those years. -
lameass, i really hope your posts in this thread are 100% exagerated, otherwise you should seek anger management.
the guy posted a fkn list he made to create a discussion. whether you agree or not, your comments are retarded and irrational. -
A guy who can't hold onto the football in crunch time does not get to be anywhere near this list until he learns that slightly important skill...
Originally Posted by slizza420
AP is a bad bad man. He runs as hard as any rb I have ever seen play.
He is a bit fragile but he owns the single game record for a reason. Obv too young to be considered amongst the all time greats right now tho.




Jim Brown is good, but I'd rather have Bo, or Barry, or likely one of these modern gladiators who plays the game on a higher level than it was played in the past but does not yet have the career longevity to be on this list. Some of those guys will get there though...
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smfthis!
Originally Posted by slizza420
He just played for a horrible team. If he had played for Dallas he woulda put up the most ridiculous numbers ever.
Blocking wasn't exactly his strength but he was certainly an adequate blocker and his red zone shortcomings were mainly due to teams stacking 600 men in the box.
LOL their offense was always in 3rd and long that certainly wasn't Barry's fault. Without him they might not have ever even won a game during those years.
Barry accomplished everyting he did playing for a horrid organization that in the past 20 years that ive been a lions fan has put virtually no effort into building an offensive line. You wonder y barry had issues on third and short, and goal line. because barry was all detroit had, and they shoved everybody in the box to stop him, and his oline got no push.
You put barry behind dallas's o line in the 90 and this is not even a debate it would be barry>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>>>> ;>>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>everybody, in everyones mind... -
barry.
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well, i only defend because he put some effort in his thread. its not like he posted a 4.40 rail call or a jfgi post.












