being depressed about sports is sad.

i went to the gold cup in 2009 in phoenix for my wife and nicaragua (stunningly made it to the gold cup) mexico was the late game. and i honestly never got over the feeling that at a minimum half of the mexican fans were american born. all the green shirts in the parking lot, nice arizona plates. fine to cheer i guess, i wasnt mad per say, but i do find it funny. i made plenty of comments to my wife about it all. even more so in a usa/mexico situation.

overall, you are right to be upset if they are born here. .also saw a couple dudes wearing mexico jerseys around town here that were not mexicans, at 11am. im like wtf all day celebration of different country jerkfuck.

Based on census stats and the growing Mexican population in this country I am not shocked. Soon they will be in the majority and you will see more and more mexican jerseys.

yes u are wrong

its like saying every person that was born in certain city has to cheer for that city baseball team, maybe someone was born in boston but their family was originally from new york and they cheer for the yankees , it doesnt mean they hate boston or treason.

Depending on where your family came from, maybe the first couple of generations would have cheered for italy, ireland, or wherever they came from in a football game against ther us as long as they weren expelled from that country

 

Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer

Did you read my post? I said people who were born here rooting against USA and cheering for Mexico.

Yes i read your post. Many of these people are 2nd generation immigrants i would expect. Therefore they were raised in an all spanish speaking house most likely. Many of the family friends were probably mexican as well. They were surrounded with this culture at a young age and now they support it. I understand that.

These second generation mexican/americans will have kids that will be raised in either a dual speaking or english speaking household. Its the third and fourth generation kids that will most likely all be cheering for the USA. The shift to supporting a home country almost never changes with first generation immigrants(especially illegal ones) ...it rarely shifts with second generation immigrants...you start to see a shift with 3rd generation and by the fourth generation you have full fledged USA supporters who will cheer on Mexico as a 2nd team to support their ancestors.

This same shift has occured with almost every immigrant population to every country over time.

 

Originally Posted by Prestonluv

Yes i read your post. Many of these people are 2nd generation immigrants i would expect. Therefore they were raised in an all spanish speaking house most likely. Many of the family friends were probably mexican as well. They were surrounded with this culture at a young age and now they support it. I understand that.

These second generation mexican/americans will have kids that will be raised in either a dual speaking or english speaking household. Its the third and fourth generation kids that will most likely all be cheering for the USA. The shift to supporting a home country almost never changes with first generation immigrants(especially illegal ones) ...it rarely shifts with second generation immigrants...you start to see a shift with 3rd generation and by the fourth generation you have full fledged USA supporters who will cheer on Mexico as a 2nd team to support their ancestors.

This same shift has occured with almost every immigrant population to every country over time.

Sounds like a very scientific study you did there. :Rollseyes:

 

Originally Posted by RUBINH

Sounds like a very scientific study you did there. :Rollseyes:

I dont need to do a study ass hat.

I see the same shit with the koreans, japanese, chinese, puerto ricans, russians, etc as i do with the mexicans.

The mexicans are just magnified cause of their huge population here.

 

Originally Posted by wild_ride

you are rooting against the football team of the country not the country

think about what i told u, how many first and second generation italians would have cheered for america against italy?

Better be careful....you are agreeing with me here

 

Originally Posted by wild_ride

there are smart clowns and stupid clowns, u just happen to be a smart one

Thanks for the compliment.

And for the record...i dont hold grudges from thread to thread...(well i do with 2 people on this site)

So dont take shit i say to heart as i spew crap relentlesly much of the time as you probably know.

 

Originally Posted by darkpoker12

who gives a flying fuck about where your parents were from or what language you speak at home.

lol..level?


pluv, I wish you would be this mellow and reasonable all the time.
the faggot rainbow: must've got that pot straight out the pot if gold at the end

at least in Mexico they give a shit about soccer

 

Originally Posted by miamifunks

Who gives a fuck. It's a free country, wear whatever jersey you want. Let people be man.

exactly!! if they were burning american jerseys than ya i could see the frustration/anger but its just a game. now if usa wins, they run up to the hotel to change into donavon jerseys and join in our celebration then i can see it..
im born here in america, but toronto might be an option for online poker..if im over there for 4-5 years and if during the 5th yr the jays meet the sox in the alcs.. if im lucky enough to score some alcs championship tickets, fuck ya im rocking a sox hat!!

dont get me wrong clay ur patriotism is honorable love for the usa is a great thing. I just think ur buddies know people over in mexico who just live a life of poverty and a soccer victory puts a smile on their faces. you're obv into soccer a lot but to the average american that a mexican encounters they prob perceive we dont give a shit. trust me that game is played in mexico and immigration announces at the game anyone who cheers for the usa will issued a usa citizenship, it might take maybe 30 seconds b4 a deafening god bless america chant starts..

So I was born and raised here, and I root for the US against any and every team out there with one exception; I will always cheer for my Dutchies. My family came from there and I grew up watching Dutch soccer before you could ever get any American soccer on TV. I had Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten, and Frank Rijkaard action figures beating the shit out of a team comprised of Cobra Commander, Tomax and Xamot, and pretty much every other bad guy action figure I owned before I'd ever heard of Tony Meola. My favorite color, and a shocking percentage of my wardrobe, has been orange for as long as I remember.

I used to skip school to watch Euro 88 matches and the like on the random Italian channel and Univision when I was little. That said, I've been to a few US games and never a Dutch game, and my best live sports experience of all time was being in the stands during World Cup 2002 when we bitchslapped Portugal around for 26 minutes and then held on for dear life against the relentless pressure of Figo and Rui Costa. It was also sick how amazing it was to be in a huge, packed soccer bar in Seattle when Landon scored his goal last year.

I wore US gear today watching the game in Malaysia, but I'd root against us if we played the Dutch. Does that make me a bad person?

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

I guarantee you that when I root for the Red Sox vs the Yankees I am rooting for Boston to defeat NYC.

nyc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. boston tho