edit- i dont really care

whatevs

 

Originally Posted by FouTight

He is known by every canadian as our best conservatist / nature lover / green guy etc (you get the point i dont know the specific terms) and he has most certainly live with a lifetime of right action, you reads on this guy are correct. He is a fucking baller.

According to his speech though, it seems he does extensive traveling around the world. This would lead to a larger carbon footprint than 99% of the people on earth. I personally don't have a problem with traveling, but when someone like Al Gore preaches on global warming and yet has one of the largest carbon footprints on earth it disgusts me. If this Canadian guys is the same way, I'm not gonna give him a free pass either even though I agree with his ideas on many things.

If I eat McDonalds every day, but tell a couple people a day to not eat McDonalds, Do I lose weight?

I never knew he was canadian but from everything I've seen/heard him say I always thought he was one of the most intelligent people we have

edit- you've had to have seen this guy before abnormalQ! on the science channel, discovery, pretty much any show containing science... he looks really old and haggard in this video tho so maybe thats why you dont recognize him

David Suzuki was really good on Discovery channel in the early 90's but was always dropping his agenda into the commentary.

What Milo said.

Humans are fking amazing at taking scientific discoveries, and acting on those discoveries to transform the world around us. Somebody figures out how to fly, and less than sixty years later we put a man on the moon. Somebody splits an atom, and a few years later we can provide endless supplies of power.

But all of that stopped in the early seventies. We stopped producing nuclear plants, stopped going to the moon. Why? Is this progress?

These guys are telling you that people suck, people are killing the world, the people are the problem.

They're worried about killing the Amazon, yet ignore technologies that would allow us to green the deserts of the world. We literally have the power and knowledge RIGHT NOW to turn dead areas of the planet surface into live ones, but this ability is ignored. Why?

Either man is a creative power to be cherished and protected (kinda glad those guys thought this in 1776,) or man is just another raw material to be exploited at will. Can't have it both ways. (BTW I understand that your country was not created to protect the population and foster scientific development. Ours, however, was. I also understand, that your queen would be proud of you for realizing your place.)


But yeah, keep promoting a guy who thinks that you breathing is somehow a threat to him.

 

Originally Posted by FouTight

You are so negative and dumb I almost didnt respond but i wouldnt want OTHERS reading this to think that I dont have your stupid argument crushed.

THe only reason he travels the world is the give these kinds of speeches to motivate others to lower their carbon footprints. He is noticably uneasy at first when he talks about the energy it took to get him to Laval, Quebec. He knows that increases his carbon footprint, but by giving this speech my buddy shared it on facebook, I sahred it on facebook then thought '' wait a minute, a lot of my friends already think like this and arent over-consuming idiots (i dont like being friends with idiots). Sharing this vid on my facebook doesnt accomplish much so I figured i would share it in OT since a majority of OT are americans and they are clearly a lot of americans that need to watch this and think about it.

At first the thread was about to die, then I went meta-game on ur asses and insulted the americans just because I would know that that would motivate the oh-so-proud yankees to watch the vid so they can then discredit me in this thread. They can insult me, discredit me and laugh at the unknown that I consider to be a world class canadian. I dont care, the purpose of this thread was to make people watch this video that didnt actually want to watch this video so that I can maybe, just maybe, hit my 1% chance of making someone realize something via this thread that would then lower his carbon footprint ever so slightly.

This also illustrates the concept that even tho Suzuki travels the world more then most anyone else on the planet, he actually has A NEGATIVE CARBON FOOTPRINT.

Didn't want the entire quote, but whatever.

He clearly states the energy involved to be present at this speech.

mr. miyagi thinks we're dooooooooomed! lol

 

Originally Posted by Clerk

lol, you see whats happening, the people that should watch the video aren't going to bother.

Completely this.

Great speech. If you enjoyed this speech I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight by Thom Hartmann. I cannot recommend this book enough. Absolutely amazing and it explicates several of the points Suzuki brings up.




Also, this is an interesting video chronicling population growth. A bit tedious but an interesting video. Think about the exponential growth he was talking about. I was a molecular bio major and i loved the test tube reference.

 

Originally Posted by savvy

The test tube thing makes sense but he needs to point out that each generation or percentage in his model is 30 years or however long he calculates..

just in case some in the audience actually thought he was saying humans actually have 5 minutes to live? :-)

i thought it was a very good video. i do think that a lot of people would actually be happier if they spent less time working at jobs they didnt like to buy stuff they don't need. btw not saying u shouldn't have a huge tv or something, if u love watching sports/movies then by all means buy a big tv, but maybe don't spend a ton of $ on clothes or something else.

foutight already explained why the carbon footprint of al gore/suzuki is a dumb one, but it amazes me how often people make that argument.

thx for posting this.

ty so much fou, awesome speech, I'm not from Canada and I didn't know him before but he kind of reminds me of philip zimbardo, also a very bright mind, you might wanna see this, different topic but also rly great imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3oIiH7BLmg