Ever heard of the terms, ADD and ADHD?

Know anybody who's been medicated with the drugs? Are you medicating your child with Adderall, or Ritalin? Do you think that your child has 'something wrong with them?' or have you been told by someone that your child 'might have something wrong with them?' That you should put them on some drug to fix them?

I'm here to tell you that you should stop and that the drugs do not show any long term effectiveness, and there is finally some proof to finally back up my words. I was 'diagnosed' with ADD when it was first becoming a popular thing to diagnose kids who can't sit still in a classroom for 5 hours a day doing boring ass shit that doesn't interest them. Its roughly 8 - 10% clinically diagnosed with this 'abnormal' behavior. 1/10 people has something, so that makes it abnormal? Seems to me like that is pretty normal if 1/10 people has a supposed 'condition.'

Its all bullshit. My mother was a registered RN for years, she then went on to get two masters degrees in the medical field. I'm not going to go into huge detail as to what all that means, but my mother started researching the pharmacology of the drug Ritalin when I was prescribed it. I didn't last very long on the drug after my mother looked into it.

Its a dirty little secret that the long term effectiveness of the drug is meaningless. It just becomes a habit forming drug that the body eventually becomes dependent upon but filters out such that it is no longer effective in the manner that it was short term.

I'll let L. Alan Sroufe is a professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Minnesota’s Institute of Child Development do some talking... or you can do some reading on words he's already typed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/op...?_r=1&emc=eta1

 

Our present course poses numerous risks. First, there will never be a single solution for all children with learning and behavior problems. While some smaller number may benefit from short-term drug treatment, large-scale, long-term treatment for millions of children is not the answer.

Second, the large-scale medication of children feeds into a societal view that all of life’s problems can be solved with a pill and gives millions of children the impression that there is something inherently defective in them.

Parents, do you really want to make your kids drug addicts with a drug that is long term ineffective?

Just think about it... because today I am fighting the battle to keep my son off of this shit. Read the article, it is not bullshit, please.

Tha fuck is new? I've been telling y'all this forever. But this dude says it better:

"And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing � a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods."

-- Aldous Huxley


Love how kids can be totally bored in the classroom (Me) and get punished for it.

For instance, I am a sevant at basic mathematics (multiplication specificially and algebra). I can multiply two digit by two digit numbers in my head faster than someone can punch them in a calculator (3 dig * 3 dig I can almost beat a calculator). That said in my honors classes in highschool, one teacher routinely gave me C's, specifically in algebra and geometry because I didn't show my work. So I quit trying and got d's and hate that lady to this day. She tried to cage my gift.

not to worry, ADHD has largely been replaced by bipolar as the diagnosis of choice in children. Now they all get to be on mood stabilizers and antipsychotics instead of stimulants . . . also without large amounts of data on how these drugs affect children.

The mentality of a lot of parents disgusts me. It amazes me how people, out of "love" for their children, are so quick to take them to the doctor at the slightest sniffle and load them up with drugs.

Here's a recent post from one of my FB friends that made me want to puke: "Dr. put Adelyn on prednisone, antibiotics, and albuterol. Could she be on anymore meds???"

This same person will insta dump cc's of Motrin on her 6 year old son if he so much as says,"mommy I don't feel good."

The bottom line is, unless my kid is running an extremely high temperature, or violently throwing up... they are absolutely NOT getting medicine. Most cold like sypmtoms are normal for kids and do not need medication for them to run their course.

Fortunately, my kids have never really been that sick, but If a doctor were ever to prescribe drugs to my kid, I will question it and there will be a serious inquisition as to why they need it.

such a strong society these days.

legal drugs.......everyone has something medically wrong whether we can really prove it

marijuana........evil non-medical drug for the blacks and mexicans.....err oh yea we quit that arguement in the 70's......ummm oh yea makes you lazy and fries your brain..........evidence of this?.....we dont need no stinkin evidence.........

sad thing is, is people like my mom who really do have mental illnesses are also just put on concoction's of drugs. hoping this will fix em.

 

Originally Posted by OldGrowth

I'm fairly sure part of the assignment was to SHOW your work. So you got the grade you deserved

the whole point is fuck the assignment. enjoy the fema camp.

Parents, your key word for the doctors is "LONGITUDINAL Study."

You really want to put your kids, or yourself, on a drug without a Longitudinal Study?

Ask for the results of the studies from your doctors prior to putting your kids, or yourself, on a drug.

PS - I learned that from Mom, the medical expert in my family.

i bet a kid that spends hours playing outside growing up would not likely get ADD/ADHD.

There is little to no doubt that in the next couple of years when my boy goes to school he will be diagnosed with some bullshit because he is an active kid. My wife and I decided a long time ago that our kid is never going to get medicated because he doesn't fit in their perimeters of what's normal.

Those drugs are not made with the best interest of your child in mind.

It should be starting to become apparent that the US school system is falling behind.

Drugging these kids has obviously improved the performance of our school system, and the results of our testing. Obviously, all the evidence points in that direction.

Right.

 

Originally Posted by Milo

Urm . . . how exactly can anyone FORCE you to medicate your son if you do not agree? Just asking for clarification.

50/50 custody can, and does, end up in court if the parents cannot agree on a course of action, and then a Judge can decide if my son should be put on a drug.

Great.

I get prescribed Adderall XR. I don't use it very often though. Only on test weeks if I feel like I need to take it.

Whoever said it earlier, there is definitely a correlation between physical activity and ADD. When I'm regularly exercising, I never feel like I need the Adderall. When I'm not, that's when I usually end up taking it. Everyone underestimates exercise.

 

Originally Posted by jesterwords

50/50 custody can, and does, end up in court if the parents cannot agree on a course of action, and then a Judge can decide if my son should be put on a drug.

Great.

Okay, I thought it might be something of that sort. Good luck Jester . . . that is a really shitty deal.

 

But questions continued to be raised, especially concerning the drugs’ mechanism of action and the durability of effects. Ritalin and Adderall, a combination of dextroamphetamine and amphetamine, are stimulants. So why do they appear to calm children down? Some experts argued that because the brains of children with attention problems were different, the drugs had a mysterious paradoxical effect on them.
However, there really was no paradox. Versions of these drugs had been given to World War II radar operators to help them stay awake and focus on boring, repetitive tasks. And when we reviewed the literature on attention-deficit drugs again in 1990 we found that all children, whether they had attention problems or not, responded to stimulant drugs the same way. Moreover, while the drugs helped children settle down in class, they actually increased activity in the playground. Stimulants generally have the same effects for all children and adults. They enhance the ability to concentrate, especially on tasks that are not inherently interesting or when one is fatigued or bored, but they don’t improve broader learning abilities.

Yep, its awesome.

so it helps you focus on tedium.

if someone is mature enough to use it sparingly to accomplish things they couldn't or wouldn't otherwise, what's so bad?

is following directions not part of the problem?

guarding against arrogance in your work is something you should be learning in lower-level courses.