Originally Posted by Dyzalot

No it is perfectly correct. Fact: The quarterback is the leader of the team. Fact: Wherever a team goes, the leader led them there. Fact: A quarterback leads a team wherever it goes.

loooool those are all facts? I see 1 statement that can be called a "fact." And that's statement #2.

You can prove to me that the QB is 100% the leader of every football team? Impressive if you can, and I'd like to see the stats/proof to back it up.

I'd love to see a poll of Dilfer's co-workers if you ask who or what led the Ravens to the 2000 title...FACT: The answer wouldn't be Trent Dilfer.

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

That's just false...the entire reason that Ravens defense was so great was because they were so physical and hard-hitting. There is no way that they would be the same defense if they played in today's NFL. So, no...I don't think Sanchez or Cassel gets there with the 2000 Ravens D.

FYI, Sanchez threw for as many yards in 3 games in his rookie postseason as Dilfer did in his 4 games in 2000. He had a 92.2 rating in the 2009 playoffs. And he threw for more yards in his 3 games in 2010 than Dilfer did in his 4 in 2000. He had a 95.5 rating in the 2010 playoffs...soooooooooo

Can't have it both ways. Can't say the Ravens defense wouldn't have accomplished what they did due to new rules while comparing Dilfer's numbers then with Sanchez's numbers in the 2010 playoffs. Plus, the Ravens allowed 23 combined points in their four playoff games. Dilfer was never tested, although I love his account of the Super Bowl.

 

I'd love to see a poll of Dilfer's co-workers if you ask who or what led the
Ravens to the 2000 title...FACT: The answer wouldn't be Trent Dilfer.

It probably wouldn't be any one player, which is true of every team to ever get to the Super Bowl. It doesn't chage the fact that by default, everyone considers the quarterback the "on field" leader of the team, the "field general". Ask any sports analyst what one player is the leader of a football team and he will immediately answer QB.

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

I'd love to see a poll of Dilfer's co-workers if you ask who or what led the Ravens to the 2000 title...FACT: The answer wouldn't be Trent Dilfer.

Listen to the podcast. It's a great listen. According to Dilfer, Tony Siragusa was actually the leader of the team (IIRC). Who woulda thunk it?

 

Originally Posted by JRoth15

Don't get me wrong...they'd still be very good. Probably still the best in the league...but teams would score on them, and Dilfer's 100 passing yards wouldn't be enough to win playoff games in today's NFL.

Not sure how you're not having it both ways when you continue to assume 100 passing yards for Dilfer...

 

Originally Posted by Hallettcopta

I feel bad for whoever gets this bust

Blasphemy, literally

Seattle Seahawks will be terrible this year i think
They will get Luck. Harbough immediately starts bargaining for a trade to get rid of one of their terrible QBs and a stud for Luck.

I really hope Luck stays in college for another year...

 

Originally Posted by Dyzalot

Roethlisberger 2008? He didn't exactly tear it up that year.

big ben is NOTHING like brad johnson and trent dilfer

 

Originally Posted by voorh33s

big ben is NOTHING like brad johnson and trent dilfer

Don't bother...we pretty much wasted 2 pages of bandwidth.

 

Originally Posted by voorh33s

I skipped first 2 pages, perhaps I'll have to give them a gander.

I was just trying to expound on your point that you need a stud passing QB to win a Super Bowl nowadays...and it turned into a bunch of crap (I'll admit...some from me) about Trent Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

but guys...will tony romo ever win a ring???

depends if you ask silent or not.

 

Originally Posted by Paki_Poker

The Chiefs will definitely have a chance. This is me taking off my homer hat, and being realistic.

i believe the chances have went up that much more after todays injury to charles

weiss gone, vrabel gone, moaki out for year, berry out for year, charles prolly out for year..........

im looking at the schedule and i don't see many games they can win:

Sep 11 BUF 41 @ KC 7
2 Sep 18 KC 3 @ DET 48
3 Sep 25 KC @ SD loss

4 Oct 02 MIN @ KC maybe?

5 Oct 09 KC @ IND maybe? but im betting collins will start getting a handle by here and be a loss after weeks 3 and 4 collins starts doing decent, not great just good, but good will be enough to beat us

6 Bye
7 Oct 23 KC @ OAK maybe

8 Oct 31 SD @ KC loss

9 Nov 06 MIA @ KC maybe?

10 Nov 13 DEN @ KC maybe

11 Nov 21 KC @ NE loss

12 Nov 27 PIT @ KC loss

13 Dec 04 KC @ CHI loss

14 Dec 11 KC @ NYJ loss

15 Dec 18 GB @ KC loss

16 Dec 24 OAK @ KC maybe bud doubt it

17 Jan 01 KC @ DEN maybe i guess but i doubt it



kc vs ind for the suck for luck winner?

hmm...

vs. DEN & @ DEN...about the only chances I see.

I mean it is the NFL, so I'm sure they'll win a game or two I don't expect, but that's a brutally tough schedule.

Weiss gone- check
Moeaki out for the year- check
Berry out for the year- check
Charles out for the year- check
Worst OC in the history of football- check
Two blowout losses in 2 of the more winnable games on our schedule- check
In two games: 10 points and 9 TURNOVERS!!!- check

We got really lucky last year in avoiding injuries and utilizing charger meltdowns and a favorable schedule to the division crown. I've been Cassel's biggest supporter, but he is going to get exposed badly all year now that JC is out of the picture, and has the last 2 weeks. Next week is going to be beyond brutal in SD against a pissed off team.

The good news: Luck or Barkley are probably coming to KC and we locked up Brandon Flowers for 5 years, so we can use the franchise tag on Bowe next year. Ohh and Jonathan Baldwin: please stop being a primadonna pussy and start earning that fucking paycheck!