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South Carolina's defense in the past 2 innings has been unreal...for being a 1-1 game, this has been some REALLY good baseball.
USC out of a bases loaded, nobody out jam in the 9th thanks to a few very nice plays by Scott Wingo...then they get out of a 2 on, 2 out jam in the 10th when their LFer throws out the winning run on the plate after a single through the left side.
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awesome
I have loved the CWS forever
the whole family used to watch back in the day I wish we could still do it
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best defense I ever seen in a 2 inning span.
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amazing game, been watching to whole game since the Phillies had an off day.
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wow
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LOL Florida
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USC just destined to win this game.
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I've watched some of the CWS, but it tilts me that they use metal bats. I understand that it's cheaper, but at that level it makes so much more sense IMO to use wooden bats. Not watching this game, just an observation from the games I've watched over the past few days.
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Originally Posted by tsxxx04
I've watched some of the CWS, but it tilts me that they use metal bats. I understand that it's cheaper, but at that level it makes so much more sense IMO to use wooden bats. Not watching this game, just an observation from the games I've watched over the past few days.
The new bats have been great. Everything is down from runs to homers as well as time of the games. Also pitching era is down. -
95 pitches on Friday...holy wow.
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I just don't understand why d1 at least wouldn't use wooden bats. Wouldn't there be less to work on with the players that go pro once they got drafted?
FWIW I have no idea what new bats you're talking about. I don't follow college ball at all, just happened to catch a few innings of a couple games this weekend--and at the cage a few weeks ago was discussing this with someone who was going to play ball in college in the fall. -
They basically made the new bats a lot like wooden bats...they've deadened them and shortened up the sweet spot.
Originally Posted by tsxxx04
FWIW I have no idea what new bats you're talking about. I don't follow college ball at all, just happened to catch a few innings of a couple games this weekend--and at the cage a few weeks ago was discussing this with someone who was going to play ball in college in the fall.
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Is the transition to a real wooden bat anything close to the transition from a standard aluminum bat?
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Do you mean transitioning from the old aluminum bats to the new ones...in comparison with transitioning from the old aluminum bats to wood?
Originally Posted by tsxxx04
Is the transition to a real wooden bat anything close to the transition from a standard aluminum bat?
The transition to wood will still be harder because compression is different...weight balance in the bat...etc. However, the new bats certainly make it easier to scout players as they are much closer to wood. -
Cost has a ton to do with it. That plus it would be harder on college coaches to scout high school kids who dont use wooden bats.
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Originally Posted by JRoth15
Do you mean transitioning from the old aluminum bats to the new ones...in comparison with transitioning from the old aluminum bats to wood?
The transition to wood will still be harder because compression is different...weight balance in the bat...etc. However, the new bats certainly make it easier to scout players as they are much closer to wood.
sry I forgot I asked a ? and left comp I meant is there a drastic difference in the transition from the new bats to wood then the old bats to wood, but you answered it for me anyway :)
Originally Posted by ZeeDustin
Cost has a ton to do with it. That plus it would be harder on college coaches to scout high school kids who dont use wooden bats.
yea, I knew it was a cost thing, but doesn't the same then work for professional scouts scouting college kids? Isn't it harder for them to scout since they don't use wood bats? -
It definitely is, but until the MLB franchises begin providing college teams with the wooden bats, I doubt it will ever happen.
Originally Posted by tsxxx04
yea, I knew it was a cost thing, but doesn't the same then work for professional scouts scouting college kids? Isn't it harder for them to scout since they don't use wood bats?
If they were provided, college teams would have zero problem switching to them.
When I played in college, our conference was the only wooden bat conference in the nation. About 98% of kids used Baum bats (or any other composite/non-breakable bat) because they didn't want to pay for 15 bats every baseball season. These composite bats don't really give a great look for scouts, either...they lose their pop very quicly--and even when they are brand new, they seem to be much more "dead" than your normal maple bat.
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I understand why colleges as a whole don't use them (financially) but generally d1 colleges are extremely expensive and make a Fortune. I can't fathom that they can't afford a ton of bats if they had to find a way to make the switch. Again, I don't think that all colleges should nec. be forced to use them, and they obv can't just make private schools that generate more money use them b/c then obv state schools would have a huge edge when playing e/o but I can't see how it couldn't become a requirement of d1 schools. In other sports they have in the past paid kids to come bought cars etc, that stuff doesn't happen in baseball and obviously baseball doesn't make schools as much money as basketball and football but I can't see how the change couldn't financially be made if they had to.
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I haven't really been following this. Just exactly how far back were the Mets eliminated from THIS thing?
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In Waterloo minor baseball kids start using wood bats at 14.
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While the colleges make alot of money, this doesn't translate into the athletic departments. There are maybe 30 athletic departments (not sure, I remember reading a si.com article a few years ago regarding this) that are actually profitable. This is coupled with the fact that there might be 10 profitable D-I baseball teams. Hell, there may be only one, LSU. Nearly all the schools rely on the money they get from aluminum bat companies (plus the bats obv). If you forced teams to switch to wood bats, it would put a massive strain on the northern teams who already have to travel the first two months of the season due to crappy weather. Kids are still getting exposed to wood bats though, there are tons of summer leagues around the country that college kids play in (Cape, Northwoods, etc.) those leagues are almost exclusively wood bat only. Plus, there are several wood bat tournaments on the HS level as well (I remember playing in a few during summer legion ball).
Originally Posted by tsxxx04
I understand why colleges as a whole don't use them (financially) but generally d1 colleges are extremely expensive and make a Fortune. I can't fathom that they can't afford a ton of bats if they had to find a way to make the switch. Again, I don't think that all colleges should nec. be forced to use them, and they obv can't just make private schools that generate more money use them b/c then obv state schools would have a huge edge when playing e/o but I can't see how it couldn't become a requirement of d1 schools. In other sports they have in the past paid kids to come bought cars etc, that stuff doesn't happen in baseball and obviously baseball doesn't make schools as much money as basketball and football but I can't see how the change couldn't financially be made if they had to.
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baseball runs well in the red at nearly every single school, no hyperbole. football is the only profitable sport for most schools. basketball is closer to 50/50
Originally Posted by tsxxx04
I understand why colleges as a whole don't use them (financially) but generally d1 colleges are extremely expensive and make a Fortune. I can't fathom that they can't afford a ton of bats if they had to find a way to make the switch. Again, I don't think that all colleges should nec. be forced to use them, and they obv can't just make private schools that generate more money use them b/c then obv state schools would have a huge edge when playing e/o but I can't see how it couldn't become a requirement of d1 schools. In other sports they have in the past paid kids to come bought cars etc, that stuff doesn't happen in baseball and obviously baseball doesn't make schools as much money as basketball and football but I can't see how the change couldn't financially be made if they had to.
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That was an awesome game to watch. I didn't really care who won until USC got out of that bases loaded jam, then I started rooting for them ever so slightly. Then Florida just gave it away.










