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Lol @ cheapshot, no intent to injure, but Jeeez, that's brutal
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To be honest I think Chara knew where the padded bench area was and used it to his advantage, however he obviously didn't want it to end up this badly. As someone who has played hockey all my life I definitely am always aware of where this area is on the ice, it rarely comes into play but you can really fuck someone up if you get them with the right hit by it, as seen tonight.
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only thing good on ice is vodka
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Are you the fuck alright ?? I played hockey all my life . no way this is a cheapshot , he nudged the guy , hope he is ok , bad luck...Chara was looking the other way , he continued his check ...wow
Edited By: Eggiebets Mar 9th, 2011 at 09:02 AM -
Just got home to respond.
But like i said before, most of you prob haven't played hockey before. But he clearly hit him 10 feet after he pushed the puck by him.
I will state again, i was cheap. I'll wait to see the reaction in the morning, but clearyly cheap.
Chara, big and physical, but i've seen him dish out some pretty cheap hits.
And to those say he was just finishing his check, it was clearly when Pacioretty didn't have the puck and it had left his stick much earlier. -
Regardless of intent, which they can't prove anyway, he made a dangerous play that ended up in a serious injury that could've been a lot worse too. Chara has no priors in this department though so I can't see him getting any major suspension. He'll probably get 1 or 2 games for it, which imo is fair, and that'll be that.
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Brutal.
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The way the rink is constructed isn't Chara's problem
And L-O-L at the guy that "plays hockey" so he is an expert on this. Fag out more dude. -
Was he taken off on a stretcher?
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The more you say you played hockey, the less I think you did. I played D for about 10 years all the way thru High School. One of the first things you learn when you get to the HS level as a defensemen is, either A) don't let the puck get behind you B) if the puck gets behind you, don't let your opponent get behind you and get the puck. YOU HAVE TO FINISH YOUR HIT. I don't know how to explain this to a Canadian cause you guys hate checking and don't learn til you are 18, but that's part of hockey. If you are engaging a player and he dumps the puck in, you are still allowed to finish your hit. happens every game many times. Your opponent doesn't have to have the puck on his stick blade for it to be a legal hit. There was nothing cheap about this and so far you are the only person that thinks there is, so maybe re-think your stance? Or just be the one guy out of 50 that doesn't get it and keep whining.
Originally Posted by MFT77
Just got home to respond.
But like i said before, most of you prob haven't played hockey before. But he clearly hit him 10 feet after he pushed the puck by him.
I will state again, i was cheap. I'll wait to see the reaction in the morning, but clearyly cheap.
Chara, big and physical, but i've seen him dish out some pretty cheap hits.
And to those say he was just finishing his check, it was clearly when Pacioretty didn't have the puck and it had left his stick much earlier. -
OMG this post is LOL!
Originally Posted by The Worm
The more you say you played hockey, the less I think you did. I played D for about 10 years all the way thru High School. One of the first things you learn when you get to the HS level as a defensemen is, either A) don't let the puck get behind you B) if the puck gets behind you, don't let your opponent get behind you and get the puck. YOU HAVE TO FINISH YOUR HIT. I don't know how to explain this to a Canadian cause you guys hate checking and don't learn til you are 18, but that's part of hockey. If you are engaging a player and he dumps the puck in, you are still allowed to finish your hit. happens every game many times. Your opponent doesn't have to have the puck on his stick blade for it to be a legal hit. There was nothing cheap about this and so far you are the only person that thinks there is, so maybe re-think your stance? Or just be the one guy out of 50 that doesn't get it and keep whining.
Americans are taught to play the puck on defense?
So that's why Canadian's always crush...
You're doing it wrong.
And lol @ no checking until 18...get serious dude!
Most provinces allow checking at the PeeWee level (age 11) and some at the Atom level (age 9).
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Yeah, this needs to be an argument divided by country lines. Obv makes sense.
Edited By: SirLiesAlot Mar 9th, 2011 at 03:30 PM
He ran interference on pacioretty and it turned out way worse than he meant it to. 2 min penalty and well wishes to pacioretty. I mean it's not like chara had to even go far laterally to hit him, he just made contact a little late which is nothing more than interference. Lemieux bulldogging Drapers face into the stantion many moons ago was intent to injure. This was interference and irresponsibility.
But I'm sure the truth will only come out after everyone wears their countries flag print jumpsuits while jamming out to their national anthems.
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Originally Posted by Paki_Poker
OMG this post is LOL!
Americans are taught to play the puck on defense?
So that's why Canadian's always crush...
You're doing it wrong.
And lol @ no checking until 18...get serious dude!
Most provinces allow checking at the PeeWee level (age 11) and some at the Atom level (age 9).
You are correct about not having to have the puck on your stick. As long as you touch the puck, you are fair game.
Times have changed then. I went to play in a tourney in Montreal when I was 12 or 13, I believe I was in the Pee Wees then. We were told very specifically that checking was illegal at this age and it would get a penalty. They said kids didn't start checking til they were 18. Just what we were told, but this was 20 years ago if that helps. If its not like that anymore than I am happy cause that was a 2 day tournament of hooking and slashing that Id like to forget. Oh and Im pretty sure the kids we played were much older too cause I remember some of them having mustaches. -
That makes more sense then. It was a while ago, but I remember the coaches from the Canadian teams telling us we had to learn how to use our sticks well before we are allowed to hit. It was awful tho, I literally remember just being hooked and slashed for 2 straight days.
Originally Posted by Paki_Poker
^Could have been a house league team, since there's no body contact in house league.
But in competitive (the only league to play if you want to "make it"), they definitely have checking at an early age. Even 20 years ago.
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Ok, here I am Canadian and play both hockey my entire youth. This hit is standard. Chara is try to stop Paci from getting behind him. It is so standard now, forward chips the puck in then the dman tries to hold him up while his parter goes to get it or looks for the goalie to set it up. Paci had half a step on Chara that's why the hot came in at the side
lol at it could have been worse I don't think that it possible. This happen two feet down the ice he hits the glass between the benches and may not even fall down.
If Chara rode him the length of the bench pushing him over the boards then you could argue it was on pirpos e. You see these happen about once a year it is a result of having the half boards -
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357203
Edited By: whatsup Mar 9th, 2011 at 04:39 PM
bob mckenzie is a smart guy he generally knows what he is talking about
also to follow up on my earlier point, Mike Murphy is taking care of this case -
Meh, I agree with some of what he said as far as the boards being configured differently, but I just don't see a suspension here. Especially after Matt Cooke wasnt suspended for a blatant elbow to the back of Savards head. I just don't see anything worth a suspension here.
Originally Posted by whatsup
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357203
bob mckenzie is a smart guy he generally knows what he is talking about
also to follow up on my earlier point, Mike Murphy is taking care of this case -
Neither does he but has to acknowledge possiblity
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Go figure this happened on the 7 year anniversary of infamous cheapshots, the Todd Bertuzzi back of the head suckerpunch. I would have had more respect for Bert, had he taken his glove off before punching Moore in the back of the head.
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Listen fuckers, I grew up playing pond hockey with figure skates spray painted black, so I know wtf I'm talking about more than anybody.
Seriously tho, looks like a standard play imo. Super unfortunate, wrong place, wrong time, perfect shitty storm, but standard play. It just happened at the worst part of the rink by the biggest fucker in the NHL (Chara, 6 ft 9 in, 260 lbs). If it happened 5 feet farther down the rink then he probably gets 2 minutes for interference and Pacioretty skates away unscathed. I don't think Chara meant to destroy the guy that bad. That shit happens pretty fast. -
If he was "just finishing his hit" why did he get a 5 min interference penalty?? This whole post seems like what he did is "allowed" and standard. He got penalized. Therefore it is NOT allowed. makes sense?
Originally Posted by The Worm
The more you say you played hockey, the less I think you did. I played D for about 10 years all the way thru High School. One of the first things you learn when you get to the HS level as a defensemen is, either A) don't let the puck get behind you B) if the puck gets behind you, don't let your opponent get behind you and get the puck. YOU HAVE TO FINISH YOUR HIT. I don't know how to explain this to a Canadian cause you guys hate checking and don't learn til you are 18, but that's part of hockey. If you are engaging a player and he dumps the puck in, you are still allowed to finish your hit. happens every game many times. Your opponent doesn't have to have the puck on his stick blade for it to be a legal hit. There was nothing cheap about this and so far you are the only person that thinks there is, so maybe re-think your stance? Or just be the one guy out of 50 that doesn't get it and keep whining.
Check out where the puck is when he gets rubbed out.
Was it intentional, who knows, Chara knows he's a big boy and once he gets a hold of you, you dont have much control of where he'll be tossin' ya.
Also, it can be looked into more as Chara was looking to get back at Pax which I dont think has been mentioned in this thread as of yet.
And pls lets end this dumb talk about "i've played hockey all my life"/this is a US vs Canada thing. Just LOL @ whoever mentioned this wouldnt be an issue if it was vs an american team rather than les habitants. pretty sure most of canada hates that team more than several american teams :) lol -
just heard no suspension no fine as it should be.
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Originally Posted by moobs96
If he was "just finishing his hit" why did he get a 5 min interference penalty?? This whole post seems like what he did is "allowed" and standard. He got penalized. Therefore it is NOT allowed. makes sense?
Check out where the puck is when he gets rubbed out.
Was it intentional, who knows, Chara knows he's a big boy and once he gets a hold of you, you dont have much control of where he'll be tossin' ya.
Also, it can be looked into more as Chara was looking to get back at Pax which I dont think has been mentioned in this thread as of yet.
And pls lets end this dumb talk about "i've played hockey all my life"/this is a US vs Canada thing. Just LOL @ whoever mentioned this wouldnt be an issue if it was vs an american team rather than les habitants. pretty sure most of canada hates that team more than several american teams :) lol
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I don't know why you're bringing up another incident. I'm responding only to what you mentioned about this particular play saying that chara was just finishing his check, and that type of play is allowed and the norm. And i simply disagreed because if it was allowed or the norm, then explain 5 min interference. that's all. now I await your response.
Originally Posted by The Worm
Why did Matt Cooke "not" get a penalty for elbowing Savard in the back of the head last season, knocking him unconscious? Isn't that a penalty?
i'm more upset bout savard than anybody. had him in my keeper pool.











