just contributing to a great collection of hip hop

If the question is what gets the most play at this point in my life, the answer is insanely lopsided at MF doom, I can kick back to secret herbs and spices box set for days

 

Originally Posted by warden

people hate lil wayne because they're trying too hard to avoid being mainstream. basically they're the rap hipsters that want to tell you how that sage francis is the GOAT

facepalm.

It's not a matter of avoiding "being mainstream" (i've been out of high school for quite a while now). Its a matter of Wayne having the most nasally, whiney voice and hearing him rap about either A) How cool he is or B) that he's Birdmans kid (as if Birdman is a legend). Wayne is a hustler making a living selling records to people who aren't actually listening to his content. If you like his music that's fine but trying to say that lyrically he is better than Sage just means you haven't listened to Sage.

Oh and he calls himself Lil' ffs

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

lol

Too Shorts best song:

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

r u hating on blow the whistle now? let's fight

what is that song about?

Nas/Jay/Biggie
No particular order:
Talib Kweli
Rakim
Black Thought
Pharoahe Monche
Mos Def
Big L

Thats a top 9..... lol @ lil' Wayne. To me it's like someone saying suzanne colins is one of the top 5 writers of all time. Idiots.

 

Originally Posted by sportguy91

I'm going to do my list of top 5.
1. Lil Wayne.
2. Eminem
3. Tupac ( would be higher if he wasn't dead. Loved the hologram though.)
4. Notorious B.I.G. (same as #3)
5. Jay Z/ Kanye West I suppose.

these are all terrible. Some have hard time cracking top 25

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

what is that song about?

i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?

based on this thread, no

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

It's not a matter of avoiding "being mainstream" (i've been out of high school for quite a while now).

in my mind, this helps prove my point.

first, if you think sage francis > lil wayne, you're definitely a rap hipster. no sense fighting it.

second, the fact that you're older makes you way more susceptible to thinking that you are somehow smarter or more sophisticated because you're not going to like the popular/mainstream music. those stupid kids "aren't actually listening to his content." it's a superiority thing.

third, the ironic thing about people who levy these hefty criticisms is that they're mostly self-defeating. people try to intellectualize rap, but then make broad and unfair generalizations about why other people are bad. in your case, "hearing him rap about either A) How cool he is or B) that he's Birdmans kid (as if Birdman is a legend)" and "making a living selling records to people who aren't actually listening to his content." wayne obviously raps about more than the first two categories, and you're deluding yourself if you think the second is actually true.

if we had this thread 15 years ago, you'd be the type of person talking about how wack jay-z and nas are.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?

NO. and that's the point. not everything has to be immortal technique ffs.

Tech N9ne needs more love in this thread. He has been doin it for so many years and all independently.

 

Originally Posted by cream420

doesnt get much better than this..

that is ridiculously good, it's hard to pick a favorite verse

One of those times kanye's rap didn't get silly

Warden ur a funny guy bro hope ur leveling anyone that has lol Wayne in their top 20 even goat they lost all credibility. I can easily name 20 better

 

Originally Posted by UhhMee

only one person thinks UGK deserves a mention?

sad that there was not a single AOTP or JMT song dropped.

Hey I like UGK, I didnt make a full list but if I made a top 10 he would be on there...maybe in the top 5

RIP Pimp C

Best rapper is OBV LIL BOOSIE

 

Originally Posted by UhhMee

only one person thinks UGK deserves a mention?

If this thread were "best rap group ever" they would certainly be included.

My favorite groups (no particular order):

Wu-Tang
UGK
The Fugees
Black Star
Atmosphere
Bone Thugs
NWA
The Roots
Mobb Deep
Outkast