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  1. just contributing to a great collection of hip hop

    If the question is what gets the most play at this point in my life, the answer is insanely lopsided at MF doom, I can kick back to secret herbs and spices box set for days
  2. Pac
    Biggie
    Eminem
    Too Short
    Jay Z
  3.  
    Originally Posted by warden View Post

    people hate lil wayne because they're trying too hard to avoid being mainstream. basically they're the rap hipsters that want to tell you how that sage francis is the GOAT

    facepalm.

    It's not a matter of avoiding "being mainstream" (i've been out of high school for quite a while now). Its a matter of Wayne having the most nasally, whiney voice and hearing him rap about either A) How cool he is or B) that he's Birdmans kid (as if Birdman is a legend). Wayne is a hustler making a living selling records to people who aren't actually listening to his content. If you like his music that's fine but trying to say that lyrically he is better than Sage just means you haven't listened to Sage.

    Oh and he calls himself Lil' ffs
  4.  
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post


    lol

    Too Shorts best song:
    Edited By: MustbeMoore May 1st, 2012 at 03:08 PM
  5. r u hating on blow the whistle now? let's fight
  6.  
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post

    r u hating on blow the whistle now? let's fight

    what is that song about?
  7. cant come up with my top so here's my top 5:

    rakim
    nas
    big
    tupac
    knowledge reigns supreme over nearly everyone

    HM to korupt BDK jigga kool g rap

    ** Edit - I know I'm dating myself here but I don't think the younger hip hop fans understand how big the KRS/BDP vs Big Daddy Kane/Juice Crew debate was in late 80's-90. Everyone in junior high/high school was rocking a high top fade and they actually shaved KRS/BDP or a cane/Big Daddy carved into their fades... there wasn't the media then of big/tupac and maybe it was just a regional thing but in junior high/high school this was just as big or bigger. The kids from the projects would actually claim their project as a KRS/BDP project or a Kane/Juice Crew project and shave their heads accordingly
    Edited By: DAWS May 1st, 2012 at 03:22 PM
  8. Nas/Jay/Biggie
    No particular order:
    Talib Kweli
    Rakim
    Black Thought
    Pharoahe Monche
    Mos Def
    Big L

    Thats a top 9..... lol @ lil' Wayne. To me it's like someone saying suzanne colins is one of the top 5 writers of all time. Idiots.
  9. doesnt get much better than this..
    Edited By: cream626 May 1st, 2012 at 03:36 PM
     
  10.  
    Originally Posted by sportguy91 View Post

    I'm going to do my list of top 5.
    1. Lil Wayne.
    2. Eminem
    3. Tupac ( would be higher if he wasn't dead. Loved the hologram though.)
    4. Notorious B.I.G. (same as #3)
    5. Jay Z/ Kanye West I suppose.


    these are all terrible. Some have hard time cracking top 25
  11. GBEANZ AINEC
    Edited By: Glo4m May 1st, 2012 at 03:46 PM
    Reason: and crunchy black
  12.  
    Originally Posted by Geoff Moore View Post

    what is that song about?


    i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?
  13. To me, it's either Em or Pac. No other artists stir up emotions from their lyrics, like these 2 did. They were so powerful and influential that they reached a market beyond hip hop fans. They forever changed the game.

    Honourable mentions to Big L, Redman, Pharaohe Monch, Biggie, Talib, and Big Pun.
    Edited By: Paki_Poker May 1st, 2012 at 04:08 PM
    Reason: and Bone, Thugs and Harmony.
     
  14.  
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post

    i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?

    based on this thread, no
  15. I can't believe it's page 6 and nobody has pointed out how much OP fucking sucks.
  16.  
    Originally Posted by Geoff Moore View Post

    It's not a matter of avoiding "being mainstream" (i've been out of high school for quite a while now).

    in my mind, this helps prove my point.

    first, if you think sage francis > lil wayne, you're definitely a rap hipster. no sense fighting it.

    second, the fact that you're older makes you way more susceptible to thinking that you are somehow smarter or more sophisticated because you're not going to like the popular/mainstream music. those stupid kids "aren't actually listening to his content." it's a superiority thing.

    third, the ironic thing about people who levy these hefty criticisms is that they're mostly self-defeating. people try to intellectualize rap, but then make broad and unfair generalizations about why other people are bad. in your case, "hearing him rap about either A) How cool he is or B) that he's Birdmans kid (as if Birdman is a legend)" and "making a living selling records to people who aren't actually listening to his content." wayne obviously raps about more than the first two categories, and you're deluding yourself if you think the second is actually true.

    if we had this thread 15 years ago, you'd be the type of person talking about how wack jay-z and nas are.

     
    Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181 View Post

    i don't know, black people stuff? does it matter?

    NO. and that's the point. not everything has to be immortal technique ffs.
     2
  17. MC Repost
  18. Tech N9ne needs more love in this thread. He has been doin it for so many years and all independently.

     
  19. only one person thinks UGK deserves a mention?

    sad that there was not a single AOTP or JMT song dropped.
  20.  
    Originally Posted by cream420 View Post

    doesnt get much better than this..

    that is ridiculously good, it's hard to pick a favorite verse

    One of those times kanye's rap didn't get silly
  21.  
    Originally Posted by IX Equilibrium View Post

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TM6itMg9nGg

    This song has some of the best wordplay I have ever heard


     
    Originally Posted by IX Equilibrium View Post

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PVjsMaQ2ptc

    This as well. Chino Xl murders it

    Someone embed these the hot fire!
  22. Warden ur a funny guy bro hope ur leveling anyone that has lol Wayne in their top 20 even goat they lost all credibility. I can easily name 20 better
  23. I have fallen off, cant keep up with everything ya hear.
    I just listen to whatever is on the radio now, Katy Perry, Carly Rae Jepsen, etc.

    Some of the stuff in this thread I haven't heard before and will need to digest.
    Most got mention, but here's a few more:

    Lauryn Hill (Fugees - The Score album is amazing)
    (Wyclef's "The Carnival" was my intro to the hip hop genre)
    Jurassic Five - (fun, remind me of T Called Quest-who are the tits) Charlie Tuna
    B-Real, not a huge fan, but a good rapper (Psycho Realm)
    RZA - Wu Tang obv mentioned, but isn't RZA the one behind it all. not sure who my fav WuTang is though.


    Any Euro rappers? I have a song to post if I can find it.
    Edited By: Tracy_Ham May 1st, 2012 at 05:54 PM
  24.  
    Originally Posted by UhhMee View Post

    only one person thinks UGK deserves a mention?

    sad that there was not a single AOTP or JMT song dropped.

    Hey I like UGK, I didnt make a full list but if I made a top 10 he would be on there...maybe in the top 5

    RIP Pimp C

  25.  
    Originally Posted by UhhMee View Post


    sad that there was not a single AOTP or JMT song dropped.

    Celph has multiple mentions and Apathy has been mentioned too... how much more of AOTP do you need named when people are naming rappers, not groups?
  26. Best rapper is OBV LIL BOOSIE
  27.  
    Originally Posted by TrafficKing View Post

    Warden ur a funny guy bro hope ur leveling anyone that has lol Wayne in their top 20 even goat they lost all credibility. I can easily name 20 better

    that's because you're an old man
     2
  28.  
    Originally Posted by UhhMee View Post

    only one person thinks UGK deserves a mention?

    If this thread were "best rap group ever" they would certainly be included.

    My favorite groups (no particular order):

    Wu-Tang
    UGK
    The Fugees
    Black Star
    Atmosphere
    Bone Thugs
    NWA
    The Roots
    Mobb Deep
    Outkast
  29.  
    Originally Posted by Purple Jesus View Post

    If this thread were "best rap group ever" they would certainly be included.

    My favorite groups (no particular order):

    Wu-Tang
    UGK
    The Fugees
    Black Star
    Atmosphere
    Bone Thugs
    NWA
    The Roots
    Mobb Deep
    Outkast

    you dont like slaughter house?