Originally Posted by setherson2

What is a better word than lyricist, I'm honestly asking

prob not best to ask me, i am dissapoint in hip hop these days ...

OT needs a good rap war - these threads gotta happen every five months or so, ten months. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten months since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

U must be kidding. Nas hasn't had a good album since "I am"

say what now cockbreath?

 

Originally Posted by MadProfesor

prob not best to ask me, i am dissapoint in hip hop these days ...

I share your frustration, but if you haven't peep last year's Reflection Eternal album, you must cop it.

Best album I've heard in a long time...front-to-back.

 

Originally Posted by JaySpo

Anybody who listened to wayne when he was with squad up and the hot boys will tell you that all of his shit post-carter II is garbage. That's probably the only stuff that 90% of the people ITT have heard by him so they think he was always lame.

When he was with squad up in the early 2000's he'd put out a new mixtape like every month freestyling over whatever song was hot at that time and it was 300% better than anything he does now. I think his stuff from just those days at least puts him up into the conversation of one of the best lyricists.

You realize he still does this right? I don't even pay much attention to his carter cd's, all about his mixtapes tho.

I disagree with your first paragraph but I get where you're coming from, I know a ton of old wayne lovers/new wayne haters but imo he didn't elevate til dedication 2 and the drought 3 which was 2006ish I believe. That's pretty much when his new style started with the quirky metaphors and similes and whatnot. Ya know, the same style that half the rappers out today try to copy. Before this he was just another generic "wanna be gangster" rapper and was boring as fuck imo.

And to amartini, nas's best song is one mic and it's from stillmatic and that's 2001 I think. Agreed that he has been trash for a long time now though, took himself outta the conversation.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

Redman: WuTang member or no?

wug

No....and Red/Meth > WuTang.

Honorary member imo, and odb>busta rhymes

dirt mcgirt

 

Originally Posted by setherson2

Just because they rap about very different things doesn't mean they can't be compared. They're very smart and, from a purely lyrical perspective, I think they're in similar leagues.

Also curious how much Lil Wayne the ainec'ers have listened too.

i'm not saying wayne sucks or anything or that it's a bad comparison (i'll admit, i don't know/listen to wayne's music like i do tupac) but from what little i have heard from wayne, i choose tupac hands down.

you should also know, i love tupac. not just his music. i love him. i've watched every documentary there is about him. so, yeah, i'm kinda biased. ;)

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

2Pac > Eminem
Nas > 2Pac

2pac>Nas>Eminem>>>>>>>Wayne

I love Tupac too, far and away my fav rapper of all time. I'm not even a big Wayne fan either but some of his shit is just wow.

And +a million to whoever mentioned Immortal. Dude's the mf truth.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

New York is the SEC of the rap game - erryone else wil bruvuh

I Agree. Long before I heard ;
"I bomb atomically,
Socrates' philosophies and hypothesis
Can't define how I be droppin these mockeries
Lyrically perform armed robbery"

Still, Wayne's entertainment value is under-appreciated by 'purists'.

 

Originally Posted by kellykip

New York is the SEC of the rap game - erryone else wil bruvuh

I will take the Pac 10 in that case..

 

Originally Posted by perma_tilt

I will take the Pac 10 in that case..

Yeah I guess that would make SoCal the Big 12. Got some strong armed bombers out there no doubt. Love that early-mid 90s L.A. style.

Wayne better than Em?

KK I am very disappoint.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

Max b shits on all of em tho.