"The Bonus Army was the popular name of an assemblage of some 43,000 marchers�17,000 World War I veterans, their families, and affiliated groups�who gathered in Washington, D.C., in the spring and summer of 1932 to demand immediate cash-payment redemption of their service certificates. Its organizers called it the Bonus Expeditionary Force to echo the name of World War I's American Expeditionary Force, while the media called it the Bonus March. It was led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

"The veterans made their largest camp at Anacostia Flats across the river from the Capitol. Approximately 10,000 veterans, women and children lived in the shelters built from materials dragged out of a junk pile nearby - old lumber, packing boxes and scrap tin covered with roofs of thatched straw."

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snprelief4.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/macarth...ndeAMEX89.html

Do protestors ever stop to think about the inconvenience they cause other people while they are exercising their right to protest? Does it not occur to them that many people have to go out of their way to avoid them, and that it is annoying as fuck to have to do so? I wonder if those protestors are aware of how their demonstration inconveniences the everyday lives of other people. Pretty disrespectful IMO.

some of his posts are annoying, but whose aren't? Overall he seems like a decent person.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

Do protestors ever stop to think about the inconvenience they cause other people while they are exercising their right to protest? Does it not occur to them that many people have to go out of their way to avoid them, and that it is annoying as fuck to have to do so? I wonder if those protestors are aware of how their demonstration inconveniences the everyday lives of other people. Pretty disrespectful IMO.

this was my reply to that thread from the other one:


when our systems of redress are utterly corrupt and incompetent (specifically designed to be that way mind you) the inconvenience known as civil disobedience - historically and presently - is the only recourse. this video is of a group of people daring to defend the right to peacefully assemble, 24 hours a day if need be. their tactics are not new. one is very quickly reminded of Cairo. the sit-ins at Selma - where students braved beatings from the public while the police watched, and then later set their dogs and hoses on them - were illegal. or further back, the occupation of Washington D.C. by 10,000 by veterans of World War I to demand their bonuses.

in every instance, the police and military are deployed to attack the seeds of social innovation which might wish to challenge the assumptions of our shadow democracy. we don't have the freedom of speech when we can't expect to peacefully converse in large groups on the very grounds of higher education without being beaten by police.

"The veterans made their largest camp at Anacostia Flats across the river from the Capitol. Approximately 10,000 veterans, women and children lived in the shelters built from materials dragged out of a junk pile nearby - old lumber, packing boxes and scrap tin covered with roofs of thatched straw."

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/snprelief4.htm

history though.

 

Originally Posted by cdmalgee

fuck the "social change" that the bonus army looked for and sought. They were soldiers paid for what they did, then a grateful nation issued a bonus to them that matured in 1945, but let them borrow against up to 50% of the bonus before 1945.

What did they do? protest that they weren't given the money early.

Granted, Hoover handled it about as poorly as possible - but these guys sucked (with the obvious exception of them fighting for us in the first world war). The OWS kids that got an 18th century european literature degree and don't want to pay the 140k they owe because they can't get a job are a good analogy for these fuckwads. It's blame and take and a notion of entitlement, and it stunts our growth rather than helps it.

this was in the middle of the depression. "get a job" sentiment is pretty gross here when 30% of the country was out of work - these were 10,000 veterans of a war that the country didn't even want to get into and had to be barraged with a propaganda assault to change their mind. much like the current crisis, it was preceded by a decade that held a false aura of endless growth. amazing that you deign to blame poor people for stunting growth given this history. i'm sure you will find a way to say that poor people caused the housing crisis, even in the face of the record fines against bank of america for charging higher fees and interest rates to 200,000 black and latino families.

 

Originally Posted by nowapowa

even in the face of the record fines against Countrywide Financial for charging higher fees and interest rates to 200,000 black and latino families.

FYP

subsidiary of bank of america, what's your point?

why can I not figure out quick reply. are quick reply posts cross posted? noob 4 lyfe.

 

Originally Posted by nowapowa

subsidiary of bank of america, what's your point?

why can I not figure out quick reply. are quick reply posts cross posted? noob 4 lyfe.

not a subsidiary of bank of america. it was a company that bank of america purchased. countrywide committed those violations prior to being purchased and bank of america made the worst takeover deal in history and has to pay out for violations it did not perpetrate.

so my point is, bank of america did not do those things.