This thread is about a girl, so I'm going to go ahead and post pics so I'm not required to GTFO...





This could possibly be the coolest girl ever by the way. She's 22. Has a masters degree in international economics, she is incredibly sweet and funny, has goals/ambitions/virtues that line up very nicely with mine, she speaks four languages fluently, and best of all, in the two months I've known her it's been some of the best conversations I've ever had with any woman in my entire life. Seriously, fucking awesome talks. Plus there's the obvious fact that she is gorgeous. So far, 10/10.

The question I have has nothing to do with any of this, but much more the way I stumbled into meeting her. Right before I met her, 100% as a method of entertainment, I signed up for a dating website for Eastern European women. My intention was mostly to get on there have some laughs and see how many big of a scam these kind of things are. I got some of those laughs, but in the process, found this girl and in our first couple correspondences it became somewhat intuitive to me that she was on there for an ego boost and for some laughs as well. Like me, this was not intended to be serious to her.

Even now, after probably a hundred hours of video-skyping, its still not anything directed as a serious nature...no, fuckers, she's not mentioning marriage, kids, etc...we are just enjoying talking and the most either of us has conceded is that we'd love to get together and actually see each other IRL and we both acknowledge an unusual chemistry that exists despite our lack of intent to find such a thing.

So here's where I need the advice: Is there any issue whatsoever about me going to Kyiv to visit her sometime in the spring? What are the downfalls I'm not thinking about? I'm 26, have never left the country. I've got a job that will allow me to do so, and money isn't an issue on the trip.

Come on OT, what ya think?



cliffs notes: Go fuck yourself.

Looked at pics and skimmed thread, so I can say the following;

this thread seems much too serious for my taste and I am going to let myself out before anyone notices that I was in this thread to begin with.

they haven't met?

22 with a masters?
pictures seem super professional.
girl seems older than 22.

scam for sure

 

Originally Posted by jetsjets1028

Is it me or do those pictures look more professionally done than they should be?

My 1st thought always goes to a scam of some kind when it comes this type of thing. The picture she has painted for you makes it seem like she has it all and yet she needs to long distance video-skype with a guy she never met in order to find someone? Seems like there is a big fat screw missing here somewhere.

Good luck either way.

The pictures are professionally done. She has a friend who is a photographer and is working on a portfolio. The friend gets a free model, she gets free pics. Anyway, thats how its described to me.

 

Originally Posted by BillMueller

22 with a masters?
pictures seem super professional.
girl seems older than 22.

scam for sure

In fairness, I'm pretty sure a "masters" is the equivalent of a bachelors here. That's just the terminology thats used. She works in finance at a bank. Don't know if it matters, but I can verify this 100%

She's actually 23...was 22 when i met her, just had a birthday. I don't think she's lying about her age.

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she's a 6.5 at best.

 

Originally Posted by jetsjets1028

Reeks of a scam to me sir. But then again, I am uninvolved emotionally and not invested in the truth in any way whatsoever.

I would tread very lightly here. How many girls that look like that and have an education like she claims to have do you think sit home searching for men on the internet.

You even said that your reason for going on the site was to see "how much of a scam it is". Trust your 1st instinct instead of your desire to get your dick wet.

I appreciate the input, honestly. The first several girls I ran into were exactly that way, and like I said, I did get some laughs.

With her though, I dont know. Her friend convinced her to get on the site. She had been on the site less than a week when I got there. I have pictures from her college graduation and of her degree, so again, not impossible to fake, but seems legit. In October she got out of a 4 year relationship, so I can kinda see how she might have gotten on this site just from the freedom aspect (my situation very similar)

and Keylight--for the record, i speak a little russian and I'm almost fluent in spanish...so she definitely speaks both of those...her english is phenomenal, and I'm pretty sure its a safe bet she speaks Ukranian.

How much of the info that you wrote in your post above have you been able to verify beyond her telling it to you?

Hmmmm, honestly smells like a scam. You'll fly over there, meet her, she'll be sweet and everything you hoped for. The first couple of days you'll think you hit the lotto...twice. The whole time she will be sizing you up. Then towards the end of the trip she'll start dropping hints about needing money for this and that. Her grandmother is sick and needs some expensive medication. Her younger brother is trying to finish school but is $1000 short for tuition. She wants to come visit you in the US but a visa cost $1500. You see where I'm going.

Just be smart about it, never send or give money.

 

Originally Posted by jetsjets1028

How much of the info that you wrote in your post above have you been able to verify beyond her telling it to you?

A lot more than you might think to some extent. Like the graduation thing...I could post pics of her walking at the ceremony cape and hat...plus her holding the degree itself afterwards.

As far as her job...I had flowers sent to the bank on her birthday and she posted pics of them on her vkontakte (russian facebook) that day. So again, verifiable.

She claims to have been in a 4 year relationship from 18-22...again, her pictures on FB and VK support this.

I've gotten to speak with her mom and her best friend...albeit briefly and their english wasn't as good as hers.

So again, room for a scam? Yes. But unlikely based on the verifiable evidences I've got so far? I think so.



Again, my question is: Is it a bad idea to just go visit her and get a sense of how real the thing is? What are the actual risks I'm looking at?

 

Originally Posted by BlindBuddah

Hmmmm, honestly smells like a scam. You'll fly over there, meet her, she'll be sweet and everything you hoped for. The first couple of days you'll think you hit the lotto...twice. The whole time she will be sizing you up. Then towards the end of the trip she'll start dropping hints about needing money for this and that. Her grandmother is sick and needs some expensive medication. Her younger brother is trying to finish school but is $1000 short for tuition. She wants to come visit you in the US but a visa cost $1500. You see where I'm going.

Just be smart about it, never send or give money.

Very good advice IMO. I had already thought of this and will not send any money, regardless. Good news is she's an only child and claims to be well off. Only lives with her mother, who owns the property there plus another rental. Obv, taking it with a grain of salt, but her MO right now would make it very difficult to ask for money.

 

Originally Posted by jetsjets1028

You name it and its possible...along with plenty of other things you won't ever think of. Scammers exist for a reason. They are very very good at what they do. You have to test this out further in some way. I'll leave the "how" to you but I would recommend doing it in some way that forces her to spend a few bucks or otherwise commit time and effort. Most scammers will bail out when tested in this way.

You got any ideas on how to test? I've definitely tried to be diligent in my exploration...y'know, verifying things and reverifying different ways to see if stories line up. In what kind of way do you mean making her spend a few bucks? She's already said she wants to get a tourist visa to the US to come visit me and that she will pay...but obv this takes longer than my passport does.

Time and effort? Is another 3 months of skying before we meet reasonable IYO?

idk if its a scam or not.... but i would def try and marry her if i were you, dangle that green card like it's 10" cock.

I don't see anything that strikes me as a scam. Isn't this standard behavior for a dating site? Two people "match" up and converse via the internet for a few months before finally deciding to meet up in real life. I don't get why it has to be a scam. Because she has a college degree and a job? Because she's not hideous?

The fact that her photos are professionally done is a better indication that it's NOT a scam, because if someone were to go to such depths to create such an elaborate scam (dating site, months of interacting), I'd think they'd be smart enough to use normal photos instead of professional ones. Professional photos have an air of "fakeness" that nobody who was actually trying to scheme for money would use. Think on a deeper level.