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My resume probably looks a little crazy, but I've been doing managerial work consistently for 3 years. I worked for first company and felt like I was under paid (like most) but I saw the owner doing favors and shit for other people and never me when I'd go overboard with work (we had a 20 year old kid interning and he promised him a job plus 70K right in front of me), so I got a really sick job, gave em two weeks and left.
He calls me last night and says that he has a job for me and wants to get lunch, yadda yadda yadda, I'm a great kid, he wants youth for his new project (he owns an office building, 3 retail stores and is on the board of overseers for a billion dollar company, kind of in his retirement stage.)
I tell him I have a pretty good job and he says that this could be your best, but doesn't get into it and tells me not to talk with the people I worked with at his company, because he said they'll get mad they didn't get an offer.
Imo he's trying to get cheap work, but tbh it was really fun working for him, he's a good shit and knows a lot of people. Another shitty thing, was I really thought he'd counter offer after I gave 2 weeks and he didn't.
It's a risk reward situation, cause like I said he knows a shitload of people and I've seen him get people big jobs. Say I'm making 50K full benefits, but pay raises that would probably get me to 70k at the end of retirement (full job security), would you sacrifice 10k now and go with the risky job?
Also, two totally different fields, video production and I'm assuming something to do with sales. -
Does the job involve driving gift wrapped presents across state lines?
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In this economy you should do whatever is the most stable and secure.
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Find out more?
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bet he is looking for a "job" from you too
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I think because I know that whatever the job is, I think it could lead to more money. Video shit is a chill job, but it's really not me (basically learned the production stuff just for the money, I think I'm good at it but it gets weird sometimes when I'm color grading video and it's like what are you doing with your life.). I'm more into business and not artsy shit. If I stay at the job I'm in now I'll never be banking big money, which the other one could lead to plus 100K easy, maybe way more (also way less). I just don't like the fact of knowing that I ceiling out at around 70k.
Originally Posted by mdshack14
How can you even think about leaving your current job for a job you know absolutely nothing about.
Also, when I took the production job, I literally had no clue what I was doing, they just wanted someone with the right personality. So I wrote down everything and read like 100 manuals and took some classes while working. It's cool stuff to know, but I see it more as a hobby. -
There are very few jobs where you will draw a W-2 and make any real money. The real money is available to those getting 1099s and starting their own businesses. More risk = more reward.
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^^^ this
Originally Posted by Mr Galt
There are very few jobs where you will draw a W-2 and make any real money. The real money is available to those getting 1099s and starting their own businesses. More risk = more reward.
I love when people say "in 'this economy' bah bah bah" while smart people are taking advantage of opportunities :) You want to see "this economy" spend some time on www.inc.com and watch people carve their path -
Meh.
Edited By: dolphin13 Dec 30th, 2011 at 05:37 AM
It kinda sounds like he makes burgers at Burger King and McDonaldsjust offered him assistant morning manager
Edit:seriously though. I guess it depends how much you trust him. Sounds like he wasn't really looking out for you if he's promising interns 70k when you're there andnow he offers you 40k -
go to lunch with him. hear him out. if you don't like what he has to say, worst case, you get a free lunch...
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He didn't offer me anything (salary wise), I just know his mind works. He called me again and told me that's it to take over because his sons don't want it/need it. Weird spot imo.
Originally Posted by dolphin13
Meh.
It kinda sounds like he makes burgers at Burger King and McDonaldsjust offered him assistant morning manager
Edit:seriously though. I guess it depends how much you trust him. Sounds like he wasn't really looking out for you if he's promising interns 70k when you're there andnow he offers you 40k -
I'm confused. Why can't you have lunch and let him fill you in on his plans/offer before you decide what to do?
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and negotiate your salary? if he is calling you to come back to the company he must like you a little bit. if he offers 50k tell him you cant leave your current job unless u get $X amount. the ball is in your court more than you think.
Edited By: HoldThzNutz Dec 30th, 2011 at 11:13 PM -
I've never really negotiated salary, how much is asking too much? Fair to ask for 60K? And the reason why i'm looking at it before is I know he'll want an answer when we meet again. Also, if I leave my current job, it's probably going to be a shitshow for a while cause I built the workflow. Do you ever give more than two weeks?
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Don't do it man. I know this guy, he is a freak and very weird dude.
If you insist on doing it anyways, I'd at least ask for what your making now and try to get more. I wouldn't trust this dude to get you any great jobs/opportunities when he passed you over for that intern. -
Huh? you mean you know his personality? The intern was contingent on completing school, etc.
Originally Posted by Tourney
Don't do it man. I know this guy, he is a freak and very weird dude.
If you insist on doing it anyways, I'd at least ask for what your making now and try to get more. I wouldn't trust this dude to get you any great jobs/opportunities when he passed you over for that intern. -
I just started a bidding war between my current employer and my new employer in a week. That was fun shit, feels nice to be appreciated.
I still went with the new employer and declined the current one's counter-offer only based on job security and benefits even though they counter offered a little more money.
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