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  1. Leefontaine Leefontaine is offline

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:28am)

    I was discussing this w some friends last night and surprisingly got some mixed reactions.

    So the line is, "They say you can't turn a bad girl good, but once a good girl's gone bad, shes gone forever".

    Anyone think differently? Or have any reasoning as to why this is?
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:32am) in reply to Leefontaine

     
    Originally Posted by Leefontaine View Post

    So the line is, "They say you can't turn a bad girl good, but once a good girl's gone bad, shes gone forever".

    so poignant and insightful
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:35am) in reply to Leefontaine

    Once a hoe, always a hoe.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:35am) in reply to Ozzie

    PM Copernicus
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:36am) in reply to NickyPrice

    no, no, andddd no.

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:37am) in reply to Leefontaine

    No. You can only wait for them to mature.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 6:45am) in reply to Leefontaine

    Sure you can.

    Just like women can turn bad boys around.
     
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 7:02am) in reply to Leefontaine

    lol at changing someone

    They have to do it themselves. You can help but your influence, or anyone else's for that matter, will have very little to do with it.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:00am) in reply to Leefontaine

    yes, its not always worth it tho
     
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:03am) in reply to Leefontaine

    No.
    "can't make a ho a housewife"
     
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:12am) in reply to Leefontaine

    And all your gonna find in the end is a bitch is a bitch but a dog is a man's best friend.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:48am) in reply to Leefontaine

    YES! of course you can, the girl must want to change and be pushed by the people who care about her in life. It takes time, but it can happen with hard work and determination.

    Happy Heart day to all
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:51am) in reply to Leefontaine

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 8:54am) in reply to Leefontaine

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 9:00am) in reply to Cesporz

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 9:14am) in reply to Leefontaine

    Shakespeare says you can.

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 9:36am) in reply to NickyPrice

    You can temporarily change em, but once they get a taste of that previous lifestyle, its a slippery slope from there
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 9:53am) in reply to Leefontaine

     
    Originally Posted by Leefontaine View Post

    So the line is, "They say you can't turn a bad girl good, but once a good girl's gone bad, shes gone forever".

    I don't understand why there is a "but" in that sentence. The two parts are saying the exact same thing. Please change to:

    "They say, 'you can't turn a bad girl good; once a good girl's gone bad, she's gone forever.'"

    People are not projects. Find a person you can love, not a person you think you can mold into someone you can love. This seems like a simple piece of advice, but I have found exactly ZERO women in the world who actually believe it. All women seem convinced that they have some magical power to transform any potential partner into a perfect mate.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 10:02am) in reply to Underdog

     
    Originally Posted by Underdog34 View Post


    People are not projects. Find a person you can love, not a person you think you can mold into someone you can love. This seems like a simple piece of advice, but I have found exactly ZERO women in the world who actually believe it. All women seem convinced that they have some magical power to transform any potential partner into a perfect mate.

    i agree with the annoying fact that all women try to do is mold you into their ideal partner but i was more asking this question from a man's point of view. Wondering if anyone's ever turned a "ho into a housewife".

    Curious to see if its psychologically possible.
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  20. Underdog Underdog is offline MVP of OT (self-proclaimed)

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:14am) in reply to Leefontaine

     
    Originally Posted by Leefontaine View Post

    i agree with the annoying fact that all women try to do is mold you into their ideal partner but i was more asking this question from a man's point of view. Wondering if anyone's ever turned a "ho into a housewife".

    Curious to see if its psychologically possible.

    If you think it's annoying that women do it, why would you even attempt it?

    This is like making fun of people who go to Vegas with a craps "system," then announcing you have a new system.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:16am) in reply to Leefontaine

    Ive taken a golden sombrero so far.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:20am) in reply to Randinho

     
    Originally Posted by Randinho View Post

    lol at changing someone

    They have to do it themselves. You can help but your influence, or anyone else's for that matter, will have very little to do with it.

    best advice...you can't change anyone and attempting to only makes it worse. Doesn't matter if its a girl, buddy, family member, etc. If someone tries to tell me I can't do something, I'm more likely to try to do it. If they try to help me, that's different and I'll at least give them the time of day.

    I'm pretty sure ladies, or anyone for that matter think the same.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:24am) in reply to HiItsAshley

     
    Originally Posted by HiItsAshley View Post

    YES! of course you can, the girl must want to change and be pushed by the people who care about her in life. It takes time, but it can happen with hard work and determination.

    Happy Heart day to all

    wat? If a girl wanted to change, why would she need to be "pushed" by someone else in order to do it?
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:27am) in reply to pigalet42

    You fuck the bad girls and marry the good girls.

    You don't care about the bad girl but care what happens to the good girl.

    You're really lucky if you get a good girl in every aspect but is a bad girl in bed.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:27am) in reply to pigalet42

    Sometimes they can't do it on their own and need someone to help them out
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:33am) in reply to HiItsAshley

     
    Originally Posted by HiItsAshley View Post

    Sometimes they can't do it on their own and need someone to help them out

    perhaps it's merely semantics, but I disagree - they may believe they can't do it on their own and sometimes they may need support, but I don't think that's the same as pushing someone to change - there's a difference between someone asking for help and receiving support and a person being pushed to change no matter the good intent
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:52am) in reply to pigalet42

    Don't Save her ldo

    I'ma introduce me
    Project Pat I keep it real
    I'ma introduce you
    Yous a sucka faking deals
    If you gonna let these
    Freaky hos run your life
    I don't understand how
    You turn a freak into a wife
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    Jackie's simple
    Jackie's quicker
    Jackie likes to suck a dck-uh
    All she wanna do smoke
    A blunt get a drink of liquor
    Lick up to the balls booty
    Even enough to smell dooky

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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 11:56am) in reply to Leefontaine

    Define "bad". Can a wild girl be tamed once she's in a relationship, has a family, etc..? Absolutely.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 12:00pm) in reply to TXGal141

     
    Originally Posted by TXGal141 View Post

    Define "bad". Can a wild girl be tamed once she's in a relationship, has a family, etc..? Absolutely.

    This def changes people. My bff just had a baby, she was a party girl, now she is all mommy like. I am poud of her because she grew up real fast.
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    Feb 14th, 2010 (2/14/2010 12:31pm) in reply to Leefontaine

    "we" cant change anyone. if there is a behavior that is toxic that we cant be part of, point it out, if they accept it and admit it they will likely attempt to repent and change it. but if they deny it, it is up to us to take a stand against it, and mean it. by simply refusing to take part in unacceptable behavior we have made it clear what we will or wont stand for.

    if she changes, its good for everyone. if she doesnt, it is still good for us because a toxic person is out of our lives. the choice is theirs.
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