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  1. magic lio magic lio is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:04pm)

    so i asked this question in the other thread and didnt get a reply so yah. once the question is answered feel free to delete thread mods...

    (this question is not a attempt at talking shit, just curious)

    ok so after looking at how stacked Canada's team is and assuming that ever since it started fielding a national team it has always been this way why do they only have 1 gold medal??? Did they just choke in games? Did they not have as many superstars on the team? Are the Europian teams normally better?

    and this is in regards to whoever said that Canada only started sending a national team since the 60's or so.
  2. Lameass_ Lameass_ is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:05pm) in reply to magic lio

    stick to lurking brah
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:05pm) in reply to magic lio

    they have 7 olympic gold medals. google is your friend.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:06pm) in reply to Lameass_

    because they were canadians
  5. s1nnr s1nnr is offline will stab you

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:07pm) in reply to smheilbron

    in the last 60 years, they have 1... sick run in the 10s and 20s though...
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:09pm) in reply to magic lio

    To answer you question, yes Canadian hockey fans are just as annoying as Iowa and SEC football fans.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:12pm) in reply to magic lio

  8. magic lio magic lio is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:16pm) in reply to Reech

    seriously is everyone dense today on this site? they have 1 gold medal in the lASt 60 years that is what my question is refering to. Jesus tread is right this is worse then the Iowa homers.
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  9. magic lio magic lio is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:17pm) in reply to Lameass_

     
    Originally Posted by Lameass_ View Post

    stick to lurking brah

    at least everyone knows what to expect in your posts after looking at your screen name first.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:46pm) in reply to magic lio

    in most of those 60 years the players were amateurs - not pros the best players did not play in the Olympics until recently
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 2:56pm) in reply to tieful

    thanks tieful
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 10:03pm) in reply to magic lio

     
    Originally Posted by magic lio View Post

    thanks tieful

    There have been 4 Olympic Winter Games with NHL players playing:

    1998, 2002, 2006, 2010.

    Canada has won 2/4 Gold Medals.

    In 1998 Canada lost in the shootout to the Czech's as Wayne Gretzky (assuming we all know about Wayne) sat on the bench and didn't shoot.

    In 2006 it was a disaster, finished 7th...wasn't a well picked team; really old defensive core got exposed on big ice in Italy, guys like Crosby and Getzalf didn't make the team instead they had Bertuzzi and Draper. Also Niedermayer and Jovonovski were both hurt, two of our top 4 dmen at the time which didn't help.

    So to answer your question...50% of the Gold medals since NHL players have played isn't too bad.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 10:16pm) in reply to magic lio

    Up until 1998, NHL players were not allowed in the Olympics. Furthermore, before the 90's players from communist countries and Europe were not typically in the NHL and did not have a high quality league of their own to play in.

    So.....while Canada had to make up their Olympic team from all the players that were not good enough to be in the NHL (consider that hundreds of the best Canadians were in the NHL already), these other countries sent their national teams to the Olympics - teams that had been playing together for years comprised of their elite players. Hardly a level playing field.
    Now that all countries can send their best to the Olympics......well, you see what happens.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 10:25pm) in reply to cruizr

    Olympic hockey was rigged up until 1998 imo...COMMIE BASTARDS ruined many celebrations!
  15. mkm44 mkm44 is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 10:34pm) in reply to Johnny Slippy

    This is why the 1980 win for the US was so massive...

    Think if the NCAA put together a team and beat a lineup of Lebron, Kobe, DWade, Dwight and Paul.

    The USSR was a machine in hockey just beating on amateur teams during the Olympics and even beating on NHL teams during that time as well.
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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 11:13pm) in reply to mkm44

    Also the structure of the tournament makes for high variance. A strong playoff team might win the Stanley Cup with a record of 16-2 or so - point being that they lose a few games. In Olympic hockey, if you lose a single game late in the tournament, you're done.
  17. mkm44 mkm44 is offline

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    Feb 28th, 2010 (2/28/2010 11:35pm) in reply to ccm

    Exactly...

    Canada/USA finished 1-2 in 2010, they finished 7-8 in 2006.
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