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    Originally Posted by Drewace34 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Defndrofangels View Post

    A key logger is a hidden program that writes down every keystroke that is hit on and what application as well as take some screenshots as well. They are simple programs but hard to detect w/out proper safeguards. It can be easily downloaded from an attachment or link.

    ugh sounds withered, possible even if your cpu doesnt have a webcam?

    Yes, a screenshot can be taken from within the computer. I'm guessing you've never taken a screenshot? On your keyboard towards the upper right there's a "Prntscn" key. Something along those lines. If you hit that button the computer will take a shot. Open up paint and hit ctrl+v, and viola you have a screenshot. Obv the keylogger has something like this only more a lot more hidden to the user.
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    Originally Posted by rocket5 View Post

    What kind of links? Could it be someting as simple as a youtube over AIM?

    i go by the rule of not clicking any link from aim, correction, I used to, I no longer trust AIM for anything.
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    Originally Posted by rocket5 View Post

    What kind of links? Could it be someting as simple as a youtube over AIM?

    I believe so though I have yet to see this happen personally or hear of a case. I mean, if you got to a porn site expect adware. Same principle.
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  4. ok enough about keyloggers 101
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  5. you say its hidden...is there no way you can search your cpu to see if this program is being run ? thx for responses btw kinda toolin out a bit been clickin tons of youtube links lately :(
     
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    Originally Posted by tommpat2000 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by rocket5 View Post

    What kind of links? Could it be someting as simple as a youtube over AIM?

    i go by the rule of not clicking any link from aim, correction, I used to, I no longer trust AIM for anything.

    Tis a good rule, but I usually open links by friends I trust. :)
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    Originally Posted by Drewace34 View Post

    you say its hidden...is there no way you can search your cpu to see if this program is being run ? thx for responses btw kinda toolin out a bit been clickin tons of youtube links lately :(

    Possibly, some keyloggers are hidden and/or have generic process sounding names. A good anti-spyware detector will pick up most of them like malwarebytes' anti-malware. If you're just clicking youtube links you should be fine.
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    Originally Posted by Drewace34 View Post

    you say its hidden...is there no way you can search your cpu to see if this program is being run ? thx for responses btw kinda toolin out a bit been clickin tons of youtube links lately :(

    Spybot, Ad Aware, and AVG virus protection (all are free @ www.download.com) will do a more than adequate job. Just keep your definitions updated and I recommend that everyone have a hardware firewall in place if for nothing else to block everything coming in.
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  9. ^^^ doubt im clickin that link
     
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  10. 10k to whoever clicks on jcpeaces link.
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    Originally Posted by nugman View Post

    WTF is DR. G? I understand what Chaz is saying about no use in yelling, showing anger, etc. However, if I'm Dr. G and my bro is about to get burnt at the stake I'm coming here guns blazing, defending him no matter what (except maybe if he stole 10gs). I've gotten my ass beat many times for dumb shit my bro has done, but I've never though twice about it. Just very odd to read 20 pgs and not one defense statement from bro

    AFAIK, they aren't real brothers.

    And, unless I'm mistaken, Dr.G hasn't posted since earlier this afternoon (in the Gatorade/Tiger thread, AIDS thread, and gg rest of day thread).

    Maybe he doesn't know exactly what's going on, either?
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  12. fuck this fuckin bullshit and helping people out shit if this is how its going to turn out...one of the most trusted members says hes been hacked but unwilling to show transfer history to anyone close to him...bullshit imo...fuck this place...back to somewhere else than here...OT/p5's in whole is a snowball heading for hell.
     
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  13. I have potential money coming from one of these leagues, but I really don't give a shit about a couple hundred bucks.

    My real beef is why on this green fk Earth people will hold one man responsible for 10k in e-cash like he's JP Morgan or some shit? 10k was a million to me until a few years ago. A man who's in need and has a family is capable of anything. Hopefully what I just said isn't the case but this is all some bull shit.

    I honestly believe I'm done with this internet bozo bull shit. Every month it's a buttfk multi-accounter or some yogiblair ghosting episode. Outside of a sports thread or two Im not getting involved with any random fool out there, regardless if he's a "p5" mod or whatever. Sucks too cause this place is fun to be involved with.

    Shout out to Blackout4 for legit deals in our small betting history. I still have an LAL bet w Waco and after that game over when money is involved.

    And also where were the fucking warnings from anyone regarding a possible shady dude holding thousands of dollars? There were dozens of threads saying "ship to Chaz"all over the place like he's some saint. Fuck all you who knew something and didnt say shit.
     
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    Originally Posted by rocket5 View Post

    10k to whoever clicks on jcpeaces link.

    I clicked on it gimme gimme gimme. It really does go to www.download.com fwiw.
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  15. 8 pages in and though there are a ton of questions that could be asked, I think the one I'd personally like an answer to is, "besides strippers, who the fuck buys titties on credit?".

    ***edit*** Oh, the linked BGX thread answers that.
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  16. 8?
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    Originally Posted by GreesonEV View Post

    fuck this fuckin bullshit and helping people out shit if this is how its going to turn out...one of the most trusted members says hes been hacked but unwilling to show transfer history to anyone close to him...bullshit imo...fuck this place...back to somewhere else than here...OT/p5's in whole is a snowball heading for hell.

    Why don't you just tell us how you really feel?
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  18. My apologies for being absent from OT for awhile (though I've been able to check in periodically), I had a situation where I had a friend and his friend leave his house and move in, so it's been a bit hectic.

    As far as this situation, I only saw it because I'm still up at 4:40 in the morning.

    So far as the concerns of me being in here "guns blazing" defending my brother, that's possibly a bit over the line. While, personally, I do believe that he is innocent of what he seems to be accused of, I don't think my being in here "guns blazing" is going to help matters much.

    I was made aware of the situation not too long ago. Chaz sent me a message and I called him immediately. I asked him what was happening and he explained the situation to me, delineated what he thought he should do, and asked what I thought. I told him that what I thought he was doing was prudent. He wanted to, as he's said in here already, was to get all the information available and then to PM all parties concerned. I supported this as I'm sure he wanted to avoid all possible "shit storms" such as this, and it seemed to make sense. He told me what has already been said in the thread so far. (Yes, I read all 21 pages)

    While I'm not the most computer literate guy you'll find, I do know a fair bit, but not nearly enough to do anything myself. Best I could do was offer an opinion and to give him my support, which I am doing and will continue to do. One possible thing on the possible date of the keylogger is that while that one has been found, it's possible that there is another existing, not yet found, one currently infecting his computer. Not saying one way or the other, but it is a possibility.

    I would think that an outstanding member of the community would be given the benefit of the doubt, at least until more credible evidence surfaces that suggests otherwise, but it does sadden me to see some of the posters "coming out" against him. While, obviously, I don't hold it against them, as clearly they're entitled to their opinion and free to speak it, I would hope that if someone had a serious problem with myself or anyone, that they'd first tell me about it and maybe we can clear up any possible confusion.

    I think, given time, this whole situation can and will work itself out. In the mean time I will continue to give Chaz my full support, and do anything I possibly can to support the community as a whole.

    - James

    (Sorry if it's a bit sloppily written, but I'm very tired)
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  19. <STRIKE>First</STRIKE> 317th...

    Jesus, this is epic. And totally sucks, and totally explains the sudden and heretofore unexplained gambling ban thrown up by dhuber a couple weeks back.

    There's a lot of pretty cool seeming people in OT, but for 99% of us, 99% of the names we see on here are just names, with no real world attachment to us at all... Lots of you guys seem cool as hell, but fuck if I'm doing business with people I've never met in real life in an internet forum built around a game and a lifestyle that attracts the shadiest of the shady unless it's for miniscule amounts of cash...

    I only hope this gets resolved in an acceptable manner for everyone involved without the destruction of too much of what it seems has been built up on this site over the past couple years...
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  20. I've heard 0 bad things about Chaz in my 3 years here, yet this comes out about him potentially faking a hack/stealing money and now ppl are coming from all directions with bad stories about him? Yea yea, it isn't your place to say anything; but come on, the guy holds a ton of money for the majority of contests here, yet you choose to say nothing to anyone? Oh and yea Wretchy why would you be in a league with Chaz holding the $ if you thought he was a shady individual?
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  21. I had only made it through 8 pages when I posted in case somebody beat me to the punch.
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  22. I am in agreement with those that feel Chaz is innocent until proven guilty...

    Dear Chaz

    Well, I guess I should start by saying I feel no remorse for what has befallen you bud. You are now in a pickle are you not? You should have minded your own business. I was not hurting anyone. Good luck trying to fix this. Surely you are about to lose alot of e-friends over this. Just so you know this was not about monetary gain as I did not gain anything but enjoyment of watching what is surely happening to you at this moment. I could care less about the people of the website you hold so dear, but I will surely enjoy watching you go from a hero to a zero.

    Love Always, LFR
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  23. omg I just typed up a long post and it all got deleted so i'll paraphrase

    -Chaz seems like a good guy and I hope he didn't do this, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

    - LOL at trusting random people from an internet forum to hold onto large sums of money for groups of strangers- OT of all places should know better.

    - Being a stand up guy on an internet forum and being a good person in real life are not one in the same

    - LOL at trusting strangers with your money.

    - How scary is it that hackers have the capability to actually carry out something like this, regardless of whether or not thats what actually happened.

    -LOL at trusting random people with money

    By the way, what exactly do you guys plan on doing if he indeed did steal the money? Beat him up? Do you know who he is?

    LOL AT TRUSTING RANDOM STRANGERS WITH MONEY UGH PEOPLE GET A FUCKING CLUE YOU ALL DESERVE IT AFTER ALL THE SHIT THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN THRU IM DONE PASS THE BLUNT IMO
     
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  24.  
    Originally Posted by CeJeH View Post

    By the way, what exactly do you guys plan on doing if he indeed did steal the money? Beat him up? Do you know who he is?

    If he did indeed steal the $ and there is legit proof then stealing 10k is a felony as already mentioned in the thread.
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  25.  
    Originally Posted by Camz2895 View Post


     
    Originally Posted by CeJeH View Post

    By the way, what exactly do you guys plan on doing if he indeed did steal the money? Beat him up? Do you know who he is?

    If he did indeed steal the $ and there is legit proof then stealing 10k is a felony as already mentioned in the thread.

    So does that mean that if he didn't steal the money then whoever actually did will pay for it eventually?

    Good luck trying to score that conviction in court lol
     
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  26. both Marinersheep and Blueberleez were here
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by CeJeH View Post


    So does that mean that if he didn't steal the money then whoever actually did will pay for it eventually?

    Good luck trying to score that conviction in court lol

    No it means chaz is gonna have to pay it
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  28.  
    Originally Posted by CeJeH View Post

    So does that mean that if he didn't steal the money then whoever actually did will pay for it eventually?

    Good luck trying to score that conviction in court lol

    Um, you asked what would they do if CHAZ was proven to have stolen the money and I responded with there could be felony charges pressed.
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  29. All I'm saying is there's like a 3% chance that he would ever be convicted of such a crime even if he did do it. Online poker is illegal in the United States- do you really think a US court will convict somebody for stealing funds thru an online poker site?

    Even if, hypothetically, Chaz did steal the money, and you guys somehow were able to try to build some sort of case- you all willingly transferred the money into his account! It's not like he stole people's passwords and sent it all to himself. There is no way, if he did it, that he will ever be forced to pay anybody back a dime without somebody holding a gun to his head (I'm not advocating that lol, just an example). On top of that, if he indeed did take the money (again, hypothetically) I doubt he would all-of-a-sudden have a change of heart and ship it all back to everyone.

    99% you're all fucked, sorry.
     
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    Originally Posted by CeJeH View Post

    All I'm saying is there's like a 3% chance that he would ever be convicted of such a crime even if he did do it. Online poker is illegal in the United States- do you really think a US court will convict somebody for stealing funds thru an online poker site?

    Even if, hypothetically, Chaz did steal the money, and you guys somehow were able to try to build some sort of case- you all willingly transferred the money into his account! It's not like he stole people's passwords and sent it all to himself. There is no way, if he did it, that he will ever be forced to pay anybody back a dime without somebody holding a gun to his head (I'm not advocating that lol, just an example). On top of that, if he indeed did take the money (again, hypothetically) I doubt he would all-of-a-sudden have a change of heart and ship it all back to everyone.

    99% you're all fucked, sorry.

    why cant anyone ever get this part right?
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