Originally Posted by orgnalsooners

I agree but as a consumer I hate that this is their stance b/c my only recourse when I think they are stupid is to boycott their establishment and not give them $ & I love their food more than any other fast food chain. Here is a post I made on a bible beaters wall on FB where I hardly ever get into it with anyone.
Shortsidedness always gets me and I have chgd my views on several topics over the years. Hell, this forum (Jesterwords esp) has chgd my views on homosexuality being a choice or not. I feel very foolish to have not read up and do my due diligence before looking back. I never hated anyone, I just was very naive about the whole thing. Anyway,



Russell Floyd Okay, this is the 3rd time writing this b/c FB goes down when I am almost done writing this and makes me start over so now I am composing it in my gmail box. (if I already didn't believe in God maybe this would spook me)

Anyway, I respe...ct James and your decision, you were always a level headed individual and it takes one to not judge others when beliefs are different b/c we our programmed to believe that we are right (esp women :) anyway, I think the people protesting is fine as long as it's peaceful and I think Chic Fil A is fine to come out and say what they feel also tho it's a poor business decision.

Times change and we must adapt or we will be left looking pretty foolish. Not so long ago at every wedding the Ephesians verse 5:21 (I think, don't sue me if im wrong) it said 'women, submit to your husbands' and than some other stuff but if u go to a wedding nowadays you will not hear those words uttered. Not so long ago in a lot of churches we were taught to believe that the black man was evil. There are many other ridiculous things that change over time and we are way behind the times on judging ppl on their sexual orientation. Most idiots don't even know that being gay isn't even a choice ( I am not gay and have few gay friends but I am pretty logical about scientific studies on the subject) and think that ppl choose that lifestyle. Have you ever really thought about it? Being gay gets you ostracized in tons of places and ridiculed. Noone would choose to be gay just like 20 yrs ago noone would choose to be black because of all the hate and how much more difficult that it would make your life.

On to another subject which is (not so much on James' FB b/c he has even keeled friends/family) that hypocrites really suck and are the lowest life form around. Don't come out and call yourself a christian and a Godly company and then throw hatred out there on your views. Now many will say that they aren't hating but I would say having a predetermined view and stereotype of a huge portion of ppl is utterly crazy because I have read the bible and I am pretty sure we are to love all and not hate.

Chic Fil A has 1614 stores in 38 states and the Dist of Columbia. The avg profit is $10k/day. If you are so christian quit talking about it and do something. 10k/dayx1614 stores is 16.14m per week/64.56m per month and over 780m per year. Be a christian and humanitarian and open Sundays and build shelters for battered women, give clean drinking water to 3rd world countries, have no homeless ppl in your community, tons of xtra jobs for christians at chic fil a who do not want to work on Sundays, what have you. Basically, put up or shut up. Once again , this is just my take but actions speak louder than words. And before anyone says that working on Sunday is a sin I know this but I also know that everyone employed by them isn't a christian and that all of the good work above would bring a ton more people to christ than ostrcizing a community with hatred and bias. Bibles, books, food, water, I could go on and on but alas I won't. I'll end this the way I started it and that most people will try to find faults with others opinions instead of opening up their hearts and minds to change. God Bless
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So, let me understand this - A private company, founded by Christians and with a culture that supports their beliefs, has to now open on Sundays etc etc because you say so, and in the name of tolerance?

LOLOL, so fricking funny how people cry out for Christians to accept anything and everything that is against their beliefs in the name of "tolerance" yet these same outspoken idiots don't see the irony that maybe others need to be "tolerant" of the values and belief system of those at Chic Fil A.

Also, you can't have much business acumen if you believe that all "profit" goes straight to the bottom line, down a vacuum tube and into some kind of Fort Knox vault. It goes to the individual store franchise owners, some back to the main company as part of the set franchise fee agreement, and part into advertising, development, etc etc. These same franchise owners who put up millions of dollars to get their store then pay their workers an above average wage and give them a great work environment including Sundays off. Oh, and it isn't a secret when they hire new workers - it is THE fundamental key aspect of their business philosophy that the company and it's franchises are to be run as a Christian operation.

Everyone at my company has undergone the Chic Fil A training program. It's entirely about emotionally engaging with your customers and your employees, with the concept that everyone has a story, and to keep in mind that every customer is a human being first. Also, when Chic Fil A interviews prospective franchisees, the first question the panel asks of themselves is if they would let their children work for this franchisee applicant - if the answer is no - then the process stops and the franchise request is denied - period - it doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters most to Chic Fil A is the character of their franchisees and operating under a Christian concept which means contributing to your community and truly valuing your customers and employees.

lol at "tolerance" as the issue.

 

Originally Posted by LizardBoy

Not sure if it's changed, but chick-fil-a doesn't have a single menu item more than 500 calories. So quit talking about fat people eating there. NO it's not exactly healthy, but it's much more healthy than most fast food places.

The deluxe spicy chicken is 570 but that's neither here nor there. The problem isn't a single item it is when these fat asses get the fried chicken sandwich (about 450 cals), a medium fry and medium coke they are looking at a 1000 calorie meal. This isn't Chick Fila's fault or any restaurants fault that offers fruit, etc as a side. It's the fat people that gotta have all that for lunch.

fat, chicken-eating, christian southerners are homophobes?

no way, didn't see that coming..

 

Originally Posted by brsavage

So, let me understand this - A private company, founded by Christians and with a culture that supports their beliefs, has to now open on Sundays etc etc because you say so, and in the name of tolerance?

LOLOL, so fricking funny how people cry out for Christians to accept anything and everything that is against their beliefs in the name of "tolerance" yet these same outspoken idiots don't see the irony that maybe others need to be "tolerant" of the values and belief system of those at Chic Fil A.

Also, you can't have much business acumen if you believe that all "profit" goes straight to the bottom line, down a vacuum tube and into some kind of Fort Knox vault. It goes to the individual store franchise owners, some back to the main company as part of the set franchise fee agreement, and part into advertising, development, etc etc. These same franchise owners who put up millions of dollars to get their store then pay their workers an above average wage and give them a great work environment including Sundays off. Oh, and it isn't a secret when they hire new workers - it is THE fundamental key aspect of their business philosophy that the company and it's franchises are to be run as a Christian operation.

Everyone at my company has undergone the Chic Fil A training program. It's entirely about emotionally engaging with your customers and your employees, with the concept that everyone has a story, and to keep in mind that every customer is a human being first. Also, when Chic Fil A interviews prospective franchisees, the first question the panel asks of themselves is if they would let their children work for this franchisee applicant - if the answer is no - then the process stops and the franchise request is denied - period - it doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters most to Chic Fil A is the character of their franchisees and operating under a Christian concept which means contributing to your community and truly valuing your customers and employees.

lol at "tolerance" as the issue.

We should not have tolerance for intolerance.

Should the north have had tolerance for the way southerners wanted to treat blacks?

Should we have tolerance for men who didn't want women to vote?

Obviously not. Having tolerance for people who want to take the liberties of others away is absurd and a ridiculous rational.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

We should not have tolerance for intolerance.

Mcdonalds should start serving a McHomo in response to this.

 

Originally Posted by snaggs

People, please stop using the phrase "Freedom of speech" until you've actually read the f'n constitution. Until the government acts against Chic-Fil-A. this has nothing to do with free speech.

If, as you reference in a later post Vance, CFA is being closed or kept out of an area by a government (local state or federal) then they are idiots for not pursuing the issue to the highest court, not to mention the publicity it would generate.

Yours is the only reference I've seen to government acting against CFA though.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/chick...0#.UBqXRKMvD1k

 

Originally Posted by VanceAce

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/chick...0#.UBqXRKMvD1k

well these are still in the theoretical stage, but if they are banned for their ideology I am completely against that. Just as I am completely against their ideology.

 

Originally Posted by Geoff Moore

We should not have tolerance for intolerance.

Should the north have had tolerance for the way southerners wanted to treat blacks?

Should we have tolerance for men who didn't want women to vote?

Obviously not. Having tolerance for people who want to take the liberties of others away is absurd and a ridiculous rational.

Dang, ty Geoff, I could have just quoted your response

 

Originally Posted by pistol45

"Please contact these following Committee members and ask them to keep our families and communities safe by keeping internet gambling illegal." --Family Research Council (Chik-Fil-A)

http://www.frc.org/washingtonupdate/...ion-no-cain-do

Imagine that. A fundamentalist Christian guy who is against gay marriage and gambling. Color me shocked.

 

Originally Posted by orgnalsooners

Dang, ty Geoff, I could have just quoted your response

repeating the message isn't a waste imo

 

Originally Posted by Willywoo

Dude. Cities are discussing banning Chik-fil-a stores. If they actually did that, it would be the government punishing them for their words and thoughts. That's pretty bad.

Example:

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/chick...0#.UBqk5vZlSsY

Didn't see this and this would be a travesty. I don't want them banned from any cities whatsoever, I wish they had a different corportate view but that is there right and it is my right to eat or not eat there and that's it. I don't want the govt in this at all and that is dumber than this clown hating gays

Fuck u Geoff, u are agreeing with everything I say and 10 secs faster. fjabkfbdklasgbkladg

"The unemployment rate in the city of Chicago is approximately 9.8 percent, well above the national average. Since Monday night, one 17-year-old boy has been shot and 13 others have been wounded in shootings across the city. And that’s just the most recent wave of shootings to plague the city – dozens more have been shot over the last few weeks.
And Mayor Rahm Emanuel is taking action: he’s banning Chick-Fil-A."

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ht-Chick-Fil-A

You Go Rahm.


ffs why is this even an issue? Where were all you righteous mother fuckers while the government was building this chik-fil-a business? Did you think this fundamentalist Christian man, who closes his stores on Sunday, was in favor of gay marriage before he made the recent comments about gay marriage?

This whole story just cracks me up. Look what it has done. Records sales at Chik-Fil-A. What a clusterfuck of a protest. Chik Fil A could not have received benefit more from any ad campaign they would have paid for.

 

Originally Posted by VanceAce

You think elected officials shutting businesses out of their cities (based on their own personal opinions) is an example of a "two-way street"?

I think you're the one missing the point

apologies, i didn't know you were talking about gov intervention.

 

Originally Posted by VanceAce

Rahm: "Chick-fil-A’s values are not Chicago values"

Me: Wait, isn't gay marriage illegal in Chicago??

Rahm: Uhhhhhhhh ... that's not the point!

In fairness, that's probably more the fault of the rest of Illinois, not Chicago.