1. you spelt reddit wrong in the thread title
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    Originally Posted by ericINtheX View Post

    lol brooklyn

    whowannitho?

    Midwest rich boy transplant with private school education tho. He ain't got a fuckin clue why Richie did Bobby Lupo.

    whowannitho?
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  3. Hard to Kill was always my favorite. Mason Storm

    and you can take that to the bank.

    im gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood bank!


    This is for my wife. Fuck you and die.
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  4. One of my favs back in the days of kazaa.
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    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    That is correct. The only thing that killing bird doesn't get is that faux linkin park and good charlotte bands do not create intellectual property.

    says the guy who listens to child molesters playing shitty hippy music. Linkin Park still makes me a lot of money. I could care less what they sound like.

    later.
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  6.  

    Swartz was a victim of bullying. Not from jocks of frat boys targeting a brilliant tech nerd for being too smart. Rather, he was being harassed by the government – the Department of Justice specifically – for his activism in trying to make academic journals and public court records freely available online:

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/12/re...o-activist-bul
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  7. I've never been on reddit and I just realized it's like a homonym for "read it." ...trippy
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  8. Completely blame the idiot US attorney for bringing such a ridiculous case. Good job helping getting rid of another brilliant mind that at the end of the day was trying to help people and make the world a better place.
     
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  9. Brilliant mind that was a thief.

    If he felt he was right, what is the point in killing yourself? It indicates guilt and cowardice.
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    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    Brilliant mind that was a thief.

    If he felt he was right, what is the point in killing yourself? It indicates guilt and cowardice.

    He was battling all sorts of shit that I can't imagine. He wrote a suicide note in 2007 here after he was fired from Wired.

    He clearly has never been emotionally strong enough to handle shitty situations. I really feel for this kid and in the end he is going to be martyr for the free web whether you agree with how he handled it or not.

    I'm extremely passionate about the fight for information that should be free (not saying everything on the internet should be free, but the laws need serious revamping) but in the end I feel like Swartz's legacy is going to live on for a long time. Sad to see someone who made such an impact on the world be taken way too young.
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    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    Brilliant mind that was a thief.

    If he felt he was right, what is the point in killing yourself? It indicates guilt and cowardice.

    The potential of fifty years in jail might drive someone to the brink whether they think they are right or not.
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  12. From what I read, he basically opened up a closet of info to the public, essentially like finding out a way to check out too many library books at one time. Even the MIT president came out with a condolence letter promising to investigate if MIT overreached in this matter. So, they obviously feel they may have played a hand in it.

    Also, all that 4mil or so documents taken from JSTOR are readily available to the public now, or in the process of being available, so I'm guessing his breach wasn't too nefarious, or in a sense it helped them realize those should be available to the public.

    I don't know his full story, so he may be a thief, but I'm going to say its going to be a net negative that he's not here anymore.

    I don't know why he killed himself, but he was chronically depressed, so in sure that had something to do with it.
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    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    Brilliant mind that was a thief.

    If he felt he was right, what is the point in killing yourself? It indicates guilt and cowardice.


    26 years old facing 50 years in prison, already a fragile mind (said before this incident he was suicidal), a witch hunt that was ridiculous in the first place because the people holding the documents said they didn't want prosecution. You can say he was guilty that's fine, but the last thing you can say is cowardice. Get the fuck out with that shit.

    But you have taken this high horse approach before when it comes to "thieves" on the internet, so keep on keepin on.
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  14. All I know is killingbird's "good riddance" post tilts the shit out of me. Eff killingbird.
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  15. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...articles-free/

    The JSTOR has made all of the files free to the public as of 4 hours ago, they also said they weren't going to press charges, but the government decided to make an example out of him.
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    At the time of Aaron’s actions, the JSTOR website allowed an unlimited number of downloads by anybody on MIT’s 18.x Class-A network. The JSTOR application lacked even the most basic controls to prevent what they might consider abusive behavior, such as CAPTCHAs triggered on multiple downloads, requiring accounts for bulk downloads, or even the ability to pop a box and warn a repeat downloader.

    Aaron did not “hack” the JSTOR website for all reasonable definitions of “hack”. Aaron wrote a handful of basic python scripts that first discovered the URLs of journal articles and then used curl to request them. Aaron did not use parameter tampering, break a CAPTCHA, or do anything more complicated than call a basic command line tool that downloads a file in the same manner as right-clicking and choosing “Save As” from your favorite browser.

    http://unhandled.com/2013/01/12/the-...swartzs-crime/
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  17.  
    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    Brilliant mind that was a thief.

    If he felt he was right, what is the point in killing yourself? It indicates guilt and cowardice.

    Love how the biggest creeper in OT always feels qualified to speak from the moral high ground in these threads.
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  18. How do we even know he killed himself over the legal issues?

    Does anyone know if he had any concussions the last few years?
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  19.  
    Originally Posted by ScottBrewr99 View Post

    Too many people know his name now, it would be too hard to cover up.

    would be interesting to see if Anonymous and the other hacker groups could actually work together to accomplish something.
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    Originally Posted by ajedrez View Post

    Love how the biggest creeper in OT always feels qualified to speak from the moral high ground in these threads.

    This is definitely a discussion worth having, but I guess name calling is way easier. This is one of the most complex issues facing the world in the coming years and there is going to need to be serious reform or more and more cases are going to keep popping up like this.

    Also, don't know if this has been posted yet but I can not wait for the The Pirate Bay documentary to come out. I love everything hackers, piracy, p2p sharing and free web
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  21. Okay, I think I finally get what he did now. That's what I initially thought Warden was saying when I read his post for the first time, but then I was like "nahhhh... I must be misinterpreting it or something, there's no way it could've been something that absurdly non-issue-ish, otherwise wtf with all this 50 years prison stuff." Turns out it WAS exactly that after all tho. Just holy fucking shit at this. Biggest "wow" in the history of "wows" at the people who are jumping for joy about this guy getting 50 years thrown at him and offing himself cuz of it. What a bunch of douchebags.
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    Originally Posted by ajedrez View Post

    Love how the biggest creeper in OT always feels qualified to speak from the moral high ground in these threads.

    Heh heh, when I saw your post quoted further down on the post, I was like "uh oh" and scrolled up quickly feeling like 99% sure it was gonna be one of my posts that you had quote-replied to, and then let out a sigh of relief when I saw that it wasn't.

    ::wipes forehead etc:: lolz
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  23. okay I get it now. to begin with IP rights and the laws governing them are murky at best. lol @ killingbird etc.
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    Originally Posted by ajedrez View Post

    Love how the biggest creeper in OT always feels qualified to speak from the moral high ground in these threads.

    It is not a moral high ground. It is what is just and unjust as defined by the law. If the laws change to accommodate these new actions, that is fine, that is the new line. However the act is thievery, whether you as the individual, or another individual, or me as the individual are met with the consequences of those actions are another matter entirely. He was met with those consequences, and he handled it the way that he did. That is sad, but my comments are aligned with what is the majority position of OT in relation to suicide.

    As for information, do I believe it should be free? Yes.
    Do I believe the created work of information should be free? No.

    If someone takes information, and creates something unique from it, you have no right to that unique product unless permission is given by the creator. Call me crazy, or someone perched on the moral high ground for believing people should be able to control and protect their unique ideas.
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    Originally Posted by Admiral View Post

    this looks super rapey. i am excite. AFK > IRL.
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  26.  
    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    It is not a moral high ground. It is what is just and unjust as defined by the law. If the laws change to accommodate these new actions, that is fine, that is the new line. However the act is thievery, whether you as the individual, or another individual, or me as the individual are met with the consequences of those actions are another matter entirely. He was met with those consequences, and he handled it the way that he did. That is sad, but my comments are aligned with what is the majority position of OT in relation to suicide.

    As for information, do I believe it should be free? Yes.
    Do I believe the created work of information should be free? No.

    If someone takes information, and creates something unique from it, you have no right to that unique product unless permission is given by the creator. Call me crazy, or someone perched on the moral high ground for believing people should be able to control and protect their unique ideas.

    oh just fucking die already. i'm not even gonna finish reading that nonsense.

    lost me @ "It is what is just and unjust as defined by the law. If the laws change to accommodate these new actions, that is fine, that is the new line.. blah blah blah"
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    Originally Posted by Admiral View Post

    Super tilting when they put subtiltes and english words on the screen at the same time and dont give you enough time to read bout.
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    Originally Posted by SCooker View Post

    oh just fucking die already. i'm not even gonna finish reading that nonsense.

    lost me @ "It is what is just and unjust as defined by the law. If the laws change to accommodate these new actions, that is fine, that is the new line.. blah blah blah"

    Whenever niceguy writes one of those types of posts, I just assume he was smirking mischievously when he wrote it.
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    Originally Posted by Niceguy View Post

    It is not a moral high ground. It is what is just and unjust as defined by the law. If the laws change to accommodate these new actions, that is fine, that is the new line. However the act is thievery, whether you as the individual, or another individual, or me as the individual are met with the consequences of those actions are another matter entirely. He was met with those consequences, and he handled it the way that he did. That is sad, but my comments are aligned with what is the majority position of OT in relation to suicide.

    As for information, do I believe it should be free? Yes.
    Do I believe the created work of information should be free? No.

    If someone takes information, and creates something unique from it, you have no right to that unique product unless permission is given by the creator. Call me crazy, or someone perched on the moral high ground for believing people should be able to control and protect their unique ideas.


    Sounds like you have a nice grasp of this particular case....

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  30.  
    Originally Posted by Hateflops View Post

    Sounds like you have a nice grasp of this particular case....

    ..................................

    Reading articles is troublesome.
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