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am I starving to death? don't see any other reason to eat a dog.
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probly have a few times i reckon.
they got street vendors in thailand selling satay pork sticks and those things are lovely. about a week after i got there i realised i hadnt seen any pigs... but i saw a shit load of stray dogs! -
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Not a whole one.Originally Posted by breathe-ez
Just wondering if you could bring yourself to eat a dog?
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I don't get the jump in logic from it being a hot day to -> must eat dogs.
If I were starving, I could do it. It wouldn't matter what breed unless it was my own dog. Maybe I'd just take a stand and not eat beagle. -
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I have ate dog. Was in Seoul a few years back teaching ESL and on the last night the school director took all the teachers out for a "special meal". Dog was the last course, served in a spicy broth with veg. It was a little chewy. The fucked up thing was that a dog was outside barking his head off, guess he knew he was next.
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ROFL, I love it! On the real tho, I think I could only eat dog if it was a life or death kind of situation.Originally Posted by baughman
in a heart beat. Put that baby in the smoker. 14 hrs later have pulled dog sammiches.
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I'd eat dog, cat, rat, insect if the necessity is there.
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i would try it but I doubt it tastes good
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Had it in China once without knowing what it was until after...was a little gamey but not bad. I'd try most any food once, but I wouldn't choose to try dog again.
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Why?Originally Posted by ECUgirl
No. I think I'd rather starve first.
Do you eat pork?
Do you realize that pigs are considerably smarter, more emotionally complex animals than dogs?
Like, if you mean you wouldn't eat your OWN pet dog, obv I understand that, I myself would never have been okay with eating my own dog either, just like I also wouldn't eat my own pig if I had a pet pig as a pet, cuz the difference there is that you have a personal relationship/sentimental/etc shit going on with it since you come to love your specific pet animal once you develop a personal relationship with each other over a long period of time, which makes it understandable not to kill it in that scenario, obviously.
however...
if it's just a random food-dog that wasn't anyone's pet that is just strictly there for food purposes, I don't see why that would be worse to you to eat than to eat pork, considering you would be eating a less intelligent/emotionally complex animal than a pig, which you presumably don't have any problem with eating by comparison.
Now, that said, obv if you are a person who is a vegetarian, or a person who does not eat pork or something, due to pigs being highly intelligent animals, relatively speaking, then obv this post doesn't apply. However, if you DO eat pork, then clearly there is some gap in logic going on here, if you think about it.
It's like, the way how a lot of people are anti-whaling, since we know that whales are extremely intelligent animals, and thus, we consider them to be too intelligent of an animal for it to be okay to kill them for food. Like, if we are going by that, then, if we consider that pigs are considerably smarter than dogs, then, by this logic, like, it's less "wrong"/"bad" to kill a dog (if it isn't someone's pet that is (the same way that the same goes for pigs in that obv it's not okay to kill someone's pet pig either)) than it is to kill a pig, and yet, most of you who are so horrified by the idea of eating a dog are happy to eat pork on a regular basis.
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Are you talking about Koreans here or do you mean dogs as in mans best friend?
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preparing for four more years. you will have reason, trust me.Originally Posted by norcaljeff
am I starving to death? don't see any other reason to eat a dog.
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Originally Posted by bfactor
Why?
Do you eat pork?
Do you realize that pigs are considerably smarter, more emotionally complex animals than dogs?
Like, if you mean you wouldn't eat your OWN pet dog, obv I understand that, I myself would never have been okay with eating my own dog either, just like I also wouldn't eat my own pig if I had a pet pig as a pet, cuz the difference there is that you have a personal relationship/sentimental/etc shit going on with it since you come to love your specific pet animal once you develop a personal relationship with each other over a long period of time, which makes it understandable not to kill it in that scenario, obviously.
however...
if it's just a random food-dog that wasn't anyone's pet that is just strictly there for food purposes, I don't see why that would be worse to you to eat than to eat pork, considering you would be eating a less intelligent/emotionally complex animal than a pig, which you presumably don't have any problem with eating by comparison.
Now, that said, obv if you are a person who is a vegetarian, or a person who does not eat pork or something, due to pigs being highly intelligent animals, relatively speaking, then obv this post doesn't apply. However, if you DO eat pork, then clearly there is some gap in logic going on here, if you think about it.
It's like, the way how a lot of people are anti-whaling, since we know that whales are extremely intelligent animals, and thus, we consider them to be too intelligent of an animal for it to be okay to kill them for food. Like, if we are going by that, then, if we consider that pigs are considerably smarter than dogs, then, by this logic, like, it's less "wrong"/"bad" to kill a dog (if it isn't someone's pet that is (the same way that the same goes for pigs in that obv it's not okay to kill someone's pet pig either)) than it is to kill a pig, and yet, most of you who are so horrified by the idea of eating a dog are happy to eat pork on a regular basis.
meh ::shrugs::
I don't think it has much to do with the intelligence of the animal, but more to do with the historic relationship humans and dogs have developed over time from back when we were cavemen and wolves. in a way you could say that they helped us develop into what we are by making much easier to hunt, protect our settlements, and stay warm during harsh winters. wild boars weren't the ones sounding the alarms at the sight/scent of approaching intruders, and they weren't the ones cuddling up next to us when we were freezing our asses off either.
f pork anyway. pigs live in a pool of their own piss and shit. bacon is a rare exception for me, but I usually eat turkey bacon so I don't really miss it. I won't turn it down if I'm a guest in someones home and that's what they're having, but I'd rather not eat an animal that ain't got enough sense to disregard it's own feces. sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie but I'd never know cuz I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker. -
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Originally Posted by AFink93
More importanly. If the moon where made of ribs would you eat it? Its a simple question doc..
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God I love his Harry Carry bits :) Yeah I prefer chicken but I'd eat some dog.
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when in rome. people are such hypocrits when it comes to the types of animals they eat. some people would morally object to eating a dog, but have no problem with the millions of cows slaughtered for their enjoyment, while others simply assume a dog is disgusting, or a horse, or whatever. but typcailly meat is meat, and it all tastes pretty good when cooked i would imagine.
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The thing about pigs being filthy animals that love to live in a puddle of shit etc is actually one of the most incorrect/widely spread common misconceptions on the planet.Originally Posted by The Alchemist
f pork anyway. pigs live in a pool of their own piss and shit. bacon is a rare exception for me, but I usually eat turkey bacon so I don't really miss it. I won't turn it down if I'm a guest in someones home and that's what they're having, but I'd rather not eat an animal that ain't got enough sense to disregard it's own feces. sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie but I'd never know cuz I wouldn't eat the filthy motherfucker.
Pigs actually are naturally cleaner animals than dogs, and are considerably closer to cats than to dogs in terms of their natural cleanliness preferences/tendencies. They extremely strongly dislike to lie in shit/live in shit.
Dogs, by comparison, often like to literally eat shit (I've seen a LOT of different dogs exhibit this behavior, with my own eyes).
The reason pigs are commonly seen to be so filthy, and considered to be so directly associated with filth and the like, is simply a result of something which is completely out of the pigs' control. That is, they are normally forced to live in very small, filthy quarters, where they have no option in the matter but to become filthy, as a result of their owner's actions.
If left to their own devices, and given free reign over a large area, pigs actual true natural state of being is a very clean one, and one that is significantly cleaner so than, say, dogs, for example.
Don't get me wrong, Pulp Fiction is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time, and Samuel L Jackson's famous monologue was one of my fav things ever, but it still isn't actually true. The whole filthy pig thing is a massive misconception based on extreme non-pig factors that artificially create the condition that is so widely and strongly associated with them.
Pigs are pretty chill imo. They get an unfairly bad rap compared to what they should. In time, it will likely change, and already has begun to, in that a lot of people are starting to have pot-belly pigs as their pets, and are beginning to see just how incredibly loving, intelligent, fun animals they actually are, even moreso than dogs in many ways, but of course, history, and longstanding tradition and conceptions change slower than molasses, so I don't expect people to view pigs very different by the time I'm old from how they do now. -
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Making me start to feel bad about pork tenderloin being my favorite dish.
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I guess I should also mention, obv it also kinda depends on how one views the concept of "cleanliness".
Human, in our current society, tend to have more of a focus on perceived aesthetic/visual cleanliness. As in, we tend to base how cleanly we view someone/something on how it looks.
In actual nature however, as far as surviving and actual real world stuff, the true actual important/legit type of cleanliness is not visual cleanliness, but ACTUAL cleanliness, as in, from a bacteria/infection-hazard perspective.
So, this is another thing that gets people mixed up when it comes to pigs. In the truest sense of cleanliness, pigs are extremely clean (in terms of keeping themselves from getting bacteria/infection-threat type of unclean, they are very meticulous about keeping themselves clean and doing everything they can to avoid becoming unclean in that way). But, to do so, they often use mud/ground soil/"dirt", to clean themselves, where it's like, from an actual legit cleanliness perspective, they are actually making themselves much much cleaner than say, a long-haired dog or wolf in nature ever would be by comparison, but, from a human perspective in current western society's perspective, we would visually view them to be "dirty" since we view sand particles/crushed rock/etc particles to be "unclean" even when the dirt in question is actually sterile, an very clean in the way that actually matters.
And then, that's where the whole unclean thing becomes so intensified in a small-pen setting, where the pigs is trapped in a small enough enclosure that it has no choice but to end up wallowing in its own shit, where its like, what it's actually trying to do is rub itself clean in clean mud/soil/sand/etc (bacteria-wise I mean), like, if it were out in nature, it would be looking for the correct patch of ground to do this on (as in, one which had no shit anywhere on/near it whatsoever (pigs have a phenomenal sense of smell, and they HATE getting shit on themselves, and would basically be looking for the LEAST shitty patch of ground to clean themselves on, given the chance)), but, as a result of being pent up in a small enclosure where there is no space to roll anywhere other than where shit is, since they are forced to live in their own toilet, essentially, by the people raising them. -
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I'm not blaming the pigs for living in their own toilets, I'm just saying that that is in fact what they do. it may be the pig farmers' fault for raising them that way, but it does nothing to change my opinion of eating an animal that spends its life in a pile of shit. I hear potbellies are pretty cool pets, and get along pretty well with dogs and cats.
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If I were starving to death, I guess I could. Don't know that I could otherwise tho
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edit: also, I'm pretty sure the average factory-farmed cow is equally as filthy as an average factory-farmed pig -
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Ah. Well yea end result-wise then yea its true, since even though it isn't their fault, it is what it is, they do end up being filthy. I was just saying all that stuff cuz I thought you were meaning it as like pigs themselves were just naturally a filthy animals by nature, so I was trying to defend their case, since I felt like, you know, they can't type on the internets with their lack of opposable thumbs and language skillz etc, so I felt, I mean, I already eat the poor bastards, I might as well at least return them the respect of like, helping them fight the fight to defend the honor of their species in return lolz
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Thanks bfactor for your terrific defense of pigs cleanliness. I was about to start defending them, but then noticed your response first. Not sure why I would defend a pig, but someone needs to I guess.
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It must be very tiring to have to go through all the logical reasons for doing or not doing something every time you make a decision, huh? As for my answer, I just don't see myself finding dog appetizing. It's a cultural/mental thing. It's not based on the relative intelligence of the creature I'm eating. Dogs=pets. Pigs=tasty, delicious creatures intended for our consumption. It would just gross me out to no end to know I was eating a dog, and whether or not it's rational to eat pig but not dog has no bearing. It is what it is.
Edited By: ECUgirl Jul 15th, 2011 at 04:42 PM
**replied before reading other responses, but Alchemist pretty much nailed it. ***except for the part about cleanliness, that really isn't a factor, either. Pig is goooooooood!!! Especially roasted all day over a fire "pig pickin' style" (my fellow southerners know!). Yummy yum yum.
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I would try it sure but I seriously doubt that I would ever request it over some yard bird. I will eat pretty much any kind of meat I'm a rabid carnivore. I hate duck tho duck is tough and nasty.
Edited By: slizza420 Jul 15th, 2011 at 04:55 PM
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um, wat?Originally Posted by ECUgirl
It must be very tiring to have to go through all the logical reasons for doing or not doing something every time you make a decision, huh?
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Logical reasoning?? WHY WOULD ANYONE WANNA GO THROUGH THAT TO MAKE A DECISION. Fuck all of you, especially AbQ and Bfactor
Edited By: AMARTIN1181 Jul 15th, 2011 at 07:07 PM
I REFUSE TO EAT ROVER.
IF I HAVE TO STARVE TO FUCKING DEATH I WILL RESIST THAT SWEET JUICY DOG MEAT
Human flesh tho? Not a problem. You guys do know I'm one of the guys who survived from that movie "Alive".
I just love dogs so goddamn fucking much. Mike Vick should be executed for what he did. Just lynch that filthy man and don't let him ever play football again!!! He drowned a few pitbulls!!! He's worse than anyone ever in the history of ever. I hope he fucking dies right now
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