Edit: Holy crap this changes everything if true. Ignore the OP below and just watch this video and comment below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KySKsH9uDaE



http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-mone...percent-layoff

Most of the time anways. Postal Union has me especially pissed off. USPS is proposing laying off 20% of it's workforce to cut costs etc and of course the union has it in worker's contracts they can't be laid off sigh. It's time to suck it up imo. USPS has lost $20bil in TAXPAYER money in last 4 years, $8.5bil in fy2010 alone and mail traffic has dropped 20% in that timeframe. Obv the industry is shrinking and so should the workforce.

Edit: Something else i saw in a comment that i found interesting: Simply amazing that is all that I have to say about management within the USPS. There is (1) supervisor per (11) employees. Wonder how many vice-presidents, regional or district management employees are going to bite the bullet. It amazes me that an office with 15 postal employees (clerks, city carriers and rural route carriers) but also have (1) postmaster and (1) supervisor. The postmaster and supervisor combined income $148,000.00…time for members of congress to do something about postal management, not the lower levels.

The 1 supervisor to 11 employees doesnt seem too unreasonable, but the salaries of those supervisors does. They're making more $ than an E7 deployed to a combat zone that is usually in charge of about 40 or more Soldiers, obv very overpaid.

I've been in the military 13 years and manage 11 Soldiers by myself and make <70k/year even while deployed, so i would assume you would agree the military is underpaid if you're saying USPS manager's pay is low. And lol at "inefficiency", that's only part of the problem. Simply put less and less people are using "snail mail" each year.

I'll eat them grilled. Like on a cheeseburger or something.

Just like my hate for the tea party who takes tax increases completely off the table I hate any union that takes layoffs completely off the table. Fuck them.

This is a pretty good description of what's going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KySKsH9uDaE

 

Originally Posted by (oIo)

Also, the post office has always been a coveted job. My whole time growing up here in detroit I have had 1 mailman. I graduated highschool went into the army, came back nine years later, that same guy is still delivering that route. Amazing. thirty years its been the same guy. That should tell you how great it is to work for them.

Same goes for UPS drivers, especially those with a nice cushy route. those bastards will fight for the death to be a full-time driver. can't say much the same for folks at FedEx.

they are losing someones money then

and obv you are underpaid kasey

way to choose your battles, OP. yes, the managers making ~75k a year at the postoffice are what is wrong with America. wrong enough to get you angry at them personally after reading a blog post. wrong enough to get you riled up at the system, when you haven't even taken the 10 minutes it would take to understand its funding. fuck unions indeed. jesus christ.

They don't use taxpayer's money in so far as they actually break even, which never happens.

They run just as inefficiently as any government operation knowing that the crutch of public money will support their financial failure.

Just charge $1 (or whatever it actually costs) to mail a letter ffs.

Making a decent salary isn't something to be that upset about. Someone who has worked for say 20 years and performed well deserves to make a decent living.

The problem is all the bullshit benefits that are associated with a lot of Union jobs.

I'd probably be upset too if someone wanted to take away my ability to retire at 50yo (some municipal gigs are even earlier) with a full pension equalling or surpassing my current salary. Oh, not to mention awesome health benefits.

Damn the non-union peons for getting upset at that awesomeness.

you guys should go back and read AbnormalQ's thread on unions linked below in similar threads. Its about UAW just before economy collapsed / bailouts were handed out. eerily similar in reference to how both unions have locked up ridiculous pensions that are underfunded by the corp who eventually is unable to pay them and gets bailed out.

 

Originally Posted by Neeek

I mean, you didn't even take the time to understand where their funding comes from, but you feel supremely confident in reaching the conclusion that it is all the union's fault? you are mad at the average postal worker making 75k a year, while simultaneously recognizing that you are grossly underpaid? you really think the person in a similar situation as you is the demon here?

You work for a private military contractor, don't you? You aren't mad at the billionaire CEOs of your company that put YOUR life at risk while grossly underpaying you, while they sit back and make billions off of taxpayer-funded military operations? you're really mad at the postalworker union instead, because their employees make more than you?

You're completely missing the point. USPS is operating at a bigger and bigger loss each year, eventually they're gonna need bailous and drastic reforms. They're trying to start the reformation now by eliminating 20% of their workforce which is not needed anymore as they've suffered a 20% reduction in business the last 4 years. They are unable to lay off alot of these workers because they have it in their contracts they can't be laid off. This last part alone is what this is all about. How ridiculous is it to get hired by a company and be able to be guaranteed that if business declines and cutbacks are needed they can't lay you off?

And no i'm not a private contractor, i serve in an Army where our "CEOs" barely make over 6 figures. But yes i believe contractors are ripping off the American taxpayer even worse than the USPS eventually will, especially Halliburton.

get back in the kitchen bish

You better put some of those walla walla sweets on my sammich.

bump for new video in OP

its always the workers that get blamed for the fuckups of congress/the higher-ups, and then are held responsible for fixing those fuckups.