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Damn i hate unions

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  1. kasey_gcp kasey_gcp is offline

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    Aug 13th, 2011 (8/13/2011 9:31pm) in reply to Neeek

     
    Originally Posted by Neeek View Post

    bump for new video in OP

    its always the workers that get blamed for the fuckups of congress/the higher-ups, and then are held responsible for fixing those fuckups.

    Agreed and yes i feel silly now. It def needs to be brought to everyone's attention the info in that vid. I'm pretty surprised that info doesnt show up easier if you do a search on the financial state of the USPS. If you dont feel like watching the 7min video it basically points out how the USPS actually made over $200mil in profit the 1st quarter but due to congress-mandated funding of pensions for the next 75 years at the rate of $5.5bil/year it's operating at a big loss. What a mindfuck. And now some congressman support laying off workers in a profitable business to cover up their mistake. Holy shitsnacks.

    Can someone explain the last part of that vid? It kind of lost me. Seems they're taking $ from the USPS to fund OTHER federal pensions? If that's true it's about the most ridiculous thing i've heard of the gov't doing in..........well at least 5 minutes. They can't be fucking serious can they?
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    Aug 13th, 2011 (8/13/2011 9:34pm) in reply to krispycream

     
    Originally Posted by krispycream View Post

    o hi der entitlement. why don't you tell that the grunt working at the gas station for 20 years? or the library, or any other job?

    Every one will eventually be promoted to their ultimate level of incompetence. If the grunt was able to get by for 20 years pumping gas competently, he probably earned a few raises along the way. He chose that profession and from his perspective, he probably feels like he makes a decent living. Doubt someone pumps gas for 20 years if they haven't identified themselves with that position.
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    Aug 13th, 2011 (8/13/2011 9:56pm) in reply to XquiziVex

    i am more shocked at how they are throwing the mail around the room and then missing the cart? what is no one pick it up off the ground or runs a cart on top of it?

     
    Originally Posted by krispycream View Post

    o hi der entitlement. why don't you tell that the grunt working at the gas station for 20 years? or the library, or any other job?

    f u
    I <3 libraries
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    Aug 13th, 2011 (8/13/2011 11:24pm) in reply to XquiziVex

    yeah but in dead-end jobs.. they're just that. lots of people are in dead-end jobs, and are for life. so they can bust their ass for 20 years, and not get promoted once. so the idea that if you work for 20 years, you deserve to be paid well isn't the case. esp. with the growing population. and plus azns.
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    Aug 13th, 2011 (8/13/2011 11:31pm) in reply to krispycream

    I guess the "deserve to be paid well" part should have been taken in context with people who actually deserve to be paid well. Those people who are in dead end jobs are largely there because of life decisions they have made. Some people are content with grinding it out at 7-Eleven for $12 per hour. Others are content with living on Welfare/Food Stamps. Some people aspire for more and seek to better themselves for promotion anyway they can.

    In a sky full of people, only some want to fly. Isn't that crazy?
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:21am) in reply to XquiziVex

    Um, operating at a significant economic loss sums up the military too. You obviously chose that profession and have little right to complain about it's lack of pay and benefits. When you get out you can only hope to get a Union job somewhere as this is one of just a few avenues left for the average American to ever obtain middle class status. O

    Oh, and by the way, the benefits you will enjoy as a honorably discharged military guy aren't too bad either. Beats what the average citizen gets from his government.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:28am) in reply to raisethis2

     

    When you get out you can only hope to get a Union job somewhere as this is one of just a few avenues left for the average American to ever obtain middle class status.

    I would bet that union members make up a smaller percentage of the middle class than they have in a long time.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:40am) in reply to Dyzalot

    I would look into this more before taking a msnbc host's word for it OP
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:45am) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    I would bet that union members make up a smaller percentage of the middle class than they have in a long time.

    Depends how you define middle class, but with the shrinking union membership, so goes the middle class.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:54am) in reply to slaps825

     
    Originally Posted by slaps825 View Post

    Depends how you define middle class, but with the shrinking union membership, so goes the middle class.

    Nonsense. My parents and step parents have all had mostly "middle class" jobs without being in unions. It is quite easy to be working for a company like IBM or Microsoft or Sprint and have a middle class income without being unionized.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 2:02am) in reply to Dyzalot

    fuck unions. especially construction ones
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 4:15am) in reply to cchan

    Dyzalot, your people must have had desk jobs. I agree that Union membership and accordingly middle class opportunities are at lower levels today than probably in 100 years.

    By the way, IBM, Microsoft and Sprint are not hiring. Mc Donalds on the other hand just hired 50,000 burger flippers. Then again, they'll need them when that's all we can afford to eat.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 9:58am) in reply to raisethis2

     
    Originally Posted by raisethis2 View Post

    Um, operating at a significant economic loss sums up the military too. You obviously chose that profession and have little right to complain about it's lack of pay and benefits. When you get out you can only hope to get a Union job somewhere as this is one of just a few avenues left for the average American to ever obtain middle class status. O

    Oh, and by the way, the benefits you will enjoy as a honorably discharged military guy aren't too bad either. Beats what the average citizen gets from his government.

    Just wow. First off, read the whole thread. Second, just fucking lol at the military being anything close to the USPS. We're over here dodging bullets and bombs. They're sorting mail dipshit.
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 11:02am) in reply to kasey_gcp

    Lol @ comparing military to mailpersons. ffs
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    Aug 14th, 2011 (8/14/2011 1:44pm) in reply to norcaljeff

    If they would eliminate 30% of middle management & supervisors that would be a step in the right direction. I'm not a fan of Unions and I think it's bullshit there is a no layoff clause in our contract. If you watched the video as liberal as it was they are correct about the over funding of pensions and I think a portion of that money should go back to the USPS after some additional cuts are made. BTW the post office cannot just up the rate of a stamp $1. The price is based on the rate of inflation and has to be approved by congress. I am all for a 5 day work week fuck working on Saturdays!
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