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[SIZE=3]When I was 19 I was under an enormous amount of stress and anxiety which inevitably triggered this god awful mental condition. it is the worst thing I had ever experienced and at the time, doctors did not know what to make of it and chalked it up to depression and anxiety. fortunately for me this sickening mode of existence abated on it's own but I do get flashes of it now and then.
Edited By: TRMGM Jan 8th, 2011 at 10:32 PM
[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]"Signs of depersonalization can occur with many illnesses, however isn't clear why the condition persists in some people. Chronically depersonalized persons (or D-People as they're often called) are usually highly intelligent, and prone to intellectual ruminating. Onset is most often seen at an early age, from around puberty to the late twenties. There has been evidence of links in some cases to early childhood trauma, Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, stress resulting from life threatening situations, and Migraine. Evidence has also suggested that it afflicts females to a greater degree than males."
Anyone else ever suffer through this and is it treatable now?
this movies is about one who lives with this condition. I haven't seen it though.
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hi tommy...i hope you can find some kind of treatment for this. i know it can't be easty living with it. gl. <3
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Thank you beki <3 I am fortunate to only have flashes of it now. Whenever I relapse it kicks in during withdrawal. Another good reason to stay C&S! I can't even smoke weed because it induces this condition. its like getting a paranoid high but unable to come down, good times :(
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yeah, pot always made me super paranoid when i smoked it. all my friends loved it so i would smoke it with them and then feel totally weirded out. it's good to be c&s!!! <333
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Wow, me too. My mom always said:"Why couldn't you just smoke pot?"Originally Posted by bekigirl
yeah, pot always made me super paranoid when i smoked it. all my friends loved it so i would smoke it with them and then feel totally weirded out. it's good to be c&s!!! <333
Anyway, good luck with finding something that helps with this. So many depression/anxiety based stuff anymore these days -
meh i been this way since i was a kid, i just learned to live with it by being a loner.
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oh wow I have this, this is why I can't smoke weed, I ccould never put a name to it. This thread just brought this to light...
Edited By: sXeffects Jan 9th, 2011 at 03:58 AM
holy fucking shit, I have been having this problem for months, I had no idea what it was....I thought I was schizophrenic. Whats the best way to get over this? Bc my doctor gave me xanax, and I don't think it really helps. I told him I thought I was having bad asthma attacks and that I never felt this way before. It could be from prolounged stress.....I was moving into a new place away from my parents when this first started.
I feel like this thread might help me deal with this, thanks for the help.
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[SIZE=6]Take comfort that you do not have Schizophrenia, I thought the same thing initially when I was 19. It feels like you are going crazy. Most of the time it will go away on its own. I was able to control my anxiety and it eased up over time. Look it up and you will find forums with people suffering from this. Ativan helps reduce the anxiety.
Edited By: TRMGM Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:14 AM
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Strangers to Our Selves
[/SIZE][SIZE=6]When your world seems strange and you've lost your sense of self, you'll be hard pressed finding a name for your affliction. But there is one "Depersonalization Disorder", and it's nothing new.
[/SIZE][SIZE=6]It may happen when you first wake up, or while flying on an airplane or driving in your car. Suddenly, inexplicably, something changes. Common objects and familiar situations seem strange, foreign. Like you've just arrived on the planet, but don't know from where. It may pass quickly, or it may linger. You close your eyes and turn inward, but the very thoughts running through your head seem different. The act of thinking itself, the stream of invisible words running through the hollow chamber of your mind, seems strange and unreal. It's as if you have no self, no ego, no remnant of that inner strength which quietly and automatically enabled you to deal with the world around you, and the world inside you. It may settle over time, into a feeling of "nothingness", as if you were without emotions, dead. Or the fear of it may blossom into a full-blown panic attack. But when it hits for the first time, you're convinced that you're going insane, and wait in a cold sweat to see when and if you finally do go over the edge.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6] What you don't know at the moment is that this troubling experience is distinctly human, experienced briefly at some time or another by as much as 70 percent of the population. In its chronic form, popular culture once saw it as part of a nervous breakdown. Some have called it "Alice in Wonderland" disease. Jean Paul Sartre called it "the filth" , William James dubbed it "the sick soul". It's been linked philosophically to existentialism, even Buddhism. Yet to its victims, it's anything but an enlightened state of mind. Welcome to the world of Depersonalization Disorder.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6] ]The term itself has been around for a long time. A psychologist named Dugas coined it as a unique medical condition back in 1898. While the word "depersonalization" is often linked to "dehumanizing" situations such as prison life or brainwashing, chronic depersonalization is an insidious mental condition that can begin on its own. The individual's perceptions of the self and the self's place in the world somehow shifts into a mindset that is altered from the norm, becoming hellish for most.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6] Depersonalization, as a symptom, is what the majority of us experience at some time in our lives. It occurs briefly, and has no lasting effect. Depersonalization Disorder, however, is a chronic illness that can take a dreadful and long-lasting course.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6] Unlike relatively new disease phenomenon such as chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia, Depersonalization Disorder has been clearly defined for years, (though somewhat buried under the Dissociative Disorders heading) in the Psychiatric Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), the bible of psychiatric diagnoses.
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6]According to DSM-IV, Depersonalization Disorder, in part, constitutes the following:[/SIZE][SIZE=6]
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6]... a feeling of detachment or estrangement from one's self . The individual may feel like an automaton or as if he or she is living in a dream or a movie. There may be a sensation of being an outside observer of one's metal processes, one's body, or parts of one's body.[/SIZE][SIZE=6]
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6]... Various types of sensory anesthesia, lack of affective response, and a sensation of lacking control of one's actions, including speech, are often present. The individual with Depersonalization Disorder maintains intact reality testing (e.g., awareness that it is only a feeling and that he or she is not really an automaton) . Depersonalization is a common experience, and this diagnosis should be made only if the symptoms are sufficiently severe to cause marked distress or impairment in functioning).[/SIZE][SIZE=6]
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6] In addition to DSM-IV, another vital diagnostic tool, Merck's Manual, describes depersonalization clearly:
[/SIZE] [SIZE=6]Persistent or recurrent feelings of being detached from one's body or mental processes and usually a feeling of being an outside observer of one's life.[/SIZE][SIZE=6]
[/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=6]Depersonalization is the third most common psychiatric symptom and frequently occurs in life-threatening danger, such as accidents, assaults, and serious illnesses and injuries; it can occur as a symptom in many other psychiatric disorders and in seizure disorders. As a separate disorder, depersonalization has not been studied widely, and its incidence and cause are unknown.[/SIZE]
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this shit is horrible when trying to talk to girls, in the middle of convo I just feel like I'm outside my body and I have to take a breather. Happens in social situations a lot.
Edited By: sXeffects Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:18 AM
On my drive from boone to raleigh today, about a 3 and a half hour drive, right in the middle of it this happened. I've been just trying to deal with it but it's so fucking hard, mostly bc I think Im going insane and I don't know who to talk to about it.
Also I think this happens when I start thinking too much, so it makes sense that this happend while driving.
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How old are you sXeffects? And when or how did it start?
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I'm 22, started a couple months ago. Honestly I think it's been going on longer than that but I just recently recognized it significantly in the past few months.
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What helps is recognizing you are not alone and it does go away. Reduce the amount of stress in your life and remind yourself your not crazy or losing your mind. Fear makes it worse as you know. So does fluerescent lighting for me for some odd reason.Originally Posted by sXeffects
I'm 22, started a couple months ago. Honestly I think it's been going on longer than that but I just recently recognized it significantly in the past few months.
LORAZEPAM helped me with some of the symptoms. Avoid smoking weed or any drugs! You will get through this. -
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What should I do about my roommate, he constantly smokes weed in the house. It's kind of a hotbox. Also is thinking that you have other diseased an affect of this disease? such as schizophrenia, cancer, degenerative eye sight, etc.
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I would tell him that weed has the potential to trigger a bad depersonalized episode and to suggest he burns elsewhere. You know how terrifying the feeling is watching your life go on while you watch on the outside. Or the feeling of being trapped in your head with thoughts that seem odd. Stress this to him.
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2 physical issues to be aware of . Some people can have these kinds of reactions to splenda and aspartame artificial sweetners. Also I used to have the same issues temporarily from low blood sugar, especially if I was already stressed out and tired. I straightened out the way I eat and don't have those issues any more. Might have nothing to do with this, but worth looking into. Kat
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Well the problem is your always in your head obsessing and cannot escape. The more you trying the more anxiety it produces. This stress will make you feel like you are losing control and you are constantly wondering "what is wrong with me" causing paranoia and phantom symptoms. Learning about it should give yu comfort in knowing it will not last forever and your not alone, though you feel more alone in that condition because nothing feels real.Originally Posted by sXeffects
What should I do about my roommate, he constantly smokes weed in the house. It's kind of a hotbox. Also is thinking that you have other diseased an affect of this disease? such as schizophrenia, cancer, degenerative eye sight, etc.
also that fluerescent lighting issue is totally true, my lighting in my house is so terrible... -
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for me I just feel like I'm in a dream or sometimes I'm looking at my life outside my body. I know who everyone is and where I'm at, just nothing seems real. It's more indepth than that, sorry for being trite, but words can't explain how it feels.
Edited By: sXeffects Jan 9th, 2011 at 04:50 AM
it's so shitty...
I can't believe I did shrooms and I felt better tripping than I did when I was with no drugs. odd, maybe bc I was conscious that reality was skewed. Reality shouldn't be skewed when you're not afflicted by drugs. -
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You recognize people and know who they are but reality feels veiled and everything feels dreamlike. People do not have that attachment feeling and you always are thinking of your thoughts over and over and over. It is hell.
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My brother is this exact same way. If you tell him to stfu we can eat in an hour he gets seriously hot. Never understood him but hes been this way since he was about 19 as well. I think losing his highschool sweetheart may have triggered this deal. He has drank diet coke for as long as I can remember.Originally Posted by katdragon
2 physical issues to be aware of . Some people can have these kinds of reactions to splenda and aspartame artificial sweetners. Also I used to have the same issues temporarily from low blood sugar, especially if I was already stressed out and tired. I straightened out the way I eat and don't have those issues any more. Might have nothing to do with this, but worth looking into. Kat
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I guess it was 1988 or so when I wen to the doctor to explain, it is impossible to put into words as nothing is comparable to it. I cold not get any doctor to get what I was saying so I just went on untreated until it vanished one day. I remember the moment it happened. And it is scary as hell when you are on a bad trip and have not taken anything. You can't talk about it to people about it because words cannot explain or convey they odd horror,Originally Posted by sXeffects
for me I just feel like I'm in a dream or sometimes I'm looking at my life outside my body. I know who everyone is and where I'm at, just nothing seems real. It's more indepth than that, sorry for being trite, but words can't explain how it feels.
it's so shitty...
I can't believe I did shrooms and I felt better tripping than I did when I was with no drugs. odd, maybe bc I was conscious that reality was skewed. Reality shouldn't be skewed when you're not afflicted by drugs.
Check out this forum sXeffects or PM anytime if you have questions. You WILL get better.
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wow thread hits home. been through this and won. will respond tom when im not drunk
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go through this as well. took paxil for a while and it helped but have been paxil free for a week now due to side effects i did not like (being completely emotionally dumb). now dealing with the paxil comedowns and feel like im drunk 24/7. was prescribed welbutrin by my doctor instead of the paxil but i havent filled it yet as it was $90 for a 30-day supply. gonna see how long i can go without any meds and still deal with the anxiety.
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hmmmmm, at first glance i was thinking i must have this, but i have some key differences from the OP. I feel like i kind of have to smoke weed. I really dont smoke it just to get fucked up, ive almost never touched any other drugs and almost never drink. I dont smoke constantly, but at least a little puff or two a day is preferred to simply slow my brain down. Im not saying im some kind of genious im just saying that a lot of the time it just feels like im spazzing out thinking about 7 things at once in a real quick annoying channelflipping kind of manner. and when thats happening at 4 am and i know i have to be up in 6 hours and im simply wishing for sleep (already take ambien it doesnt have much of an effect on me) it really drives me crazy. And i dont answer the phone a lot when im chillaxing at home which happens a lot and i feel bad about it, but im honestly just happier not being bothered. Im not afraid to talk to people, at work and amongst family im thought of as pretty outgoing but with new people and people i tag as "someone i would hate" i just dont really care to pretend to feign interest. I kind of wish i knew what was wrong with me, i definately connected with one thing in the trailer when he talked about "being uncomfortable in your own skin" most of the time im glad im different from everybody else but i go thru some large spots of depression where i really wish i could be somebody else. i.e. somebody who is fine with chillin with the small town locals, who is fine with a ho hum 9-5 eeking thru life existence, who is easily entertained, who has the same childhood friends/best college buddies/etc but this isnt me at all. I guess basically anyone who has this i feel for ya, and youre not a weirdo. I dont really wanna be your new friend (lol, sry) just know that theres lots of fellow weirdos out there and its not the end of the world. it is still better than being the same as all the sheep. having your own brain is a powerful thing even if it causes you emotional distress from time to time.
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Always helpful to see other people deal with stuff like this too. Started for me at 19 when stress->GAD->panic disorder->depression->depersonalization from 24-26. Got off the antidepressants and am on a very low dose beta blocker every other day. Mindfulness and CBT for past year and a half have helped me tremendously. Neuroplasticity FTMFW!
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I've had to deal with spats of this condition for the majority of my teen years, into my 20s. A complete overhaul of my thought processes and a massive amount of therapy helped. Plus wellbutrin and zoloft were great. Paxil was just horrible and made me more depressed PLUS I couldn't ever get off...which made things even worse. Fuck paxil.
Edited By: j_money24 Jan 9th, 2011 at 06:39 AM
I remember being younger and very often feeling like I wasn't completely "in" my body. Often it would feel as though I was standing at one end of a really long tunnel, and the other end was what I was seeing, and I wouldn't always react to what I was seeing or who was talking to me. I was always extremely reserved, and often to the point that it was like I wasn't even in the same place as my body. -
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I only talk about this stuff with my shrink.
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Does it feel at all like you're Truman in The Truman Show?Originally Posted by sXeffects
for me I just feel like I'm in a dream or sometimes I'm looking at my life outside my body. I know who everyone is and where I'm at, just nothing seems real. It's more indepth than that, sorry for being trite, but words can't explain how it feels.
it's so shitty...
I can't believe I did shrooms and I felt better tripping than I did when I was with no drugs. odd, maybe bc I was conscious that reality was skewed. Reality shouldn't be skewed when you're not afflicted by drugs. -
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The concept of that movie creeped me out.
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