Derek Jeter just passed HOF Luis Aparicio as the all time hit leader for shortstops. I can remember about a year ago a poll was conducted that said Jeter was considered as one of baseballs' Most Overrated Player. Really? Who was conducting this poll? The Boston Red Sox? Jeter is definitely a first ballot hall of famer. Not to mention at the same age as Pete Rose, the all time hit leader, he is matching him hit for hit(that's not to say that he is going to catch Rose).

1st ballot? yes
over rated? no, he's damn good. just think people find it fun to hate on him cause he's not a power hitter and gets a lot of T.V. time.

i'm a yankee fan and love jeter...not that i agree at all, but peoples reasoning for why he's overrated as far as i've heard is he doesn't show fight and enthusiasm and his defense is overrated..again, not agreeing with this, but this is what i've gotten out of yankeehater debates

No need for a question mark on this thread title

 

Originally Posted by tsxxx04

i'm a yankee fan

wtf is this shit? GTFO

he clinched 1st ballot hof 8 years ago

i know a lot of ppl round here who hateeeee the yanks and i don't think any of them would disagree that he's a 1st ballot HOF..doubt sox fans could honestly say this....it's like if manny didn't end up being dirty, even though he's top 5 most hated players for me (actually #1) i couldn't have disagreed honestly that he's overrated and not HOF material

Arod was a better SS.

 

Originally Posted by gladi8tor333

Hey, what happen to the list of all the women that Jeter dated? That was nice.

<TABLE class=crimson id=content cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=body colSpan=3> Derek Jeter
Cancer

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=bottom></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <TABLE class=crimson id=content cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=title vAlign=center><H2>Derek Jeter Relationships</H2></TD></TR><TR><TD class=body colSpan=3><H2>Who is Derek Jeter dating?</H2>Click on the photos to find out Who's Dated Who...

• <LI>
  Mariah Carey
  1996 - 98 Aries
  </LI> <LI>
  Joy Enriquez
  1998 Gemini
  </LI> <LI>
  Lara Dutta
  2000 - 01 Aries
  </LI> <LI>
  Jordana Brewster
  2002 Taurus
  </LI> <LI>
  Adriana Lima
  2003 Gemini
  </LI> <LI>
  Vanessa Minnillo
  2003 - 05 Scorpio
  </LI> <LI>
  Jessica Alba
  2004 Taurus
  </LI> <LI>
  Vida Guerra
  2005 Pisces
  </LI> <LI>
  Jessica Biel
  2006 - 07 Pisces
  </LI> <LI>
  Minka Kelly
  2008 Cancer
  </LI>

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

1st Ballot Hall of Famer? Yes

Overrated? Yes

Not even the best Shortstop on his own side of the infield

DEREK JETER WINS GAME WITH WALK-OFF INTANGIBLE

Derek Jeter led the Yankees to an exciting, come-from-behind victory over the Orioles last night with a dramatic, walk-off, bases loaded intangible. It was the shortstop�s 1,148thcareer game-winning intangible, extending his major league record.

Jeter came to the plate against Baltimore closer Chris Ray in the bottom of the ninth inning with the bases loaded, two outs and the Yankees trailing 6-3. But seconds later his unmatched intangibles cleared the bases and had New York celebrating an exciting win before a roaring home crowd.

�It was amazing to see,� said recent Yankees acquisition Bobby Abreu. �I�ve long heard about Jeter�s intangibles and how his true worth can�t be measured by his somewhat pedestrian numbers, but this is the first time I witnessed it with my own eyes. It�s still unclear to me exactly what happened. I remember him going up to the plate. There was maybe a pitch or two and then a great flash of light shot out of him and filled the sky. Then the next thing I knew everyone was celebrating at home plate. It was totally surreal. But great, because we really needed the win.�

Baltimore�s Ray said all he can do is tip is cap to Jeter and try to get him next time.

�When a guy with the unmatched intangibles that he has comes up, you�re kind of at their mercy,� said Ray. �I did my best, but his intangibles won out.�

Yankees manager Joe Torre said last night�s walk-off intangible is just the latest example of why he wouldn�t trade Jeter for any other player in baseball.

�Derek�s detractors will point out the fact that he doesn�t have much power. Or that he strikes out too much. Or that he has limited range at shortstop and a mediocre throwing arm,� said Torre. �But it�s the intangibles that set him apart from every other player in baseball. The intangibles. What those are exactly I can�t say. It�s kind of tough to put your finger on. But it�s something. And that something somehow won the game for us tonight.�

Jeter�s teammate, Alex Rodriguez, says he wishes he could one day come through with a walk-off intangible at Yankee Stadium.

�I was the MVP of the entire American League last year and even though my numbers are way down this year, they�ll still dwarf anything Derek has ever put up,� said Rodriguez. �Yet it�s not enough for people, and I know that. They want championships here in New York and in order to get championships you need players with intangibles � whatever they might be and however it is that you go about displaying them. If we could have a lineup full of Derek Jeters, we wouldn�t have a single guy with more than 20 home runs or 80 RBI, but we�d be working on eight-straight championships. That�s a given.�

 

Originally Posted by cchan

he clinched 1st ballot hof 8 years ago

Jeter's average season, 1996-2001:
.320 avg, 16.5 HR, 80 RBI, .393 OBP, 22.5 SB

Garicaparra's average season, 1997-2000,2002-2003 (injured 2001):
.324 avg, 27.5 HR, 107.5 RBI, .376 OBP, 12.8 SB

Very comparable numbers. Did Nomar clinch 1st ballot 8 years ago as well? I have no doubt Jeter will be in on the first ballot, and as much as I don't like him he deserves to be, but to say that he had it locked up in 2001 is either greatly exaggerating or crazy. If his career went down the shitter like Garciaparra's did, the voters wouldn't look back on his first 6 years and think that's enough to get in.

 

Originally Posted by TMLMS13

I still think giambi was safe at home

This

 

Originally Posted by cchan

Does nomar have 4 world series rings?

get back to me when he does.

1. I am not making a case for Nomar to be in the hall of fame. He does not deserve to be.
2. Posada, Pettitte and Bernie all have 4 rings as well. Should they be in the HOF, and if so, 1st ballot?
2a. Robert Horry has 7 NBA Championship Rings. 1st ballot?
3. The point of my post is that Jeter had not done enough in his first 6 years to make the HOF. If his career were to end today, he would be 1st ballot. If it ended in 2001, he would be one of the all-time woulda shoulda coulda's on the outside of the HOF looking in.

 

Originally Posted by JKoblyn

Jeter's average season, 1996-2001:
.320 avg, 16.5 HR, 80 RBI, .393 OBP, 22.5 SB

Garicaparra's average season, 1997-2000,2002-2003 (injured 2001):
.324 avg, 27.5 HR, 107.5 RBI, .376 OBP, 12.8 SB

Very comparable numbers. Did Nomar clinch 1st ballot 8 years ago as well? I have no doubt Jeter will be in on the first ballot, and as much as I don't like him he deserves to be, but to say that he had it locked up in 2001 is either greatly exaggerating or crazy. If his career went down the shitter like Garciaparra's did, the voters wouldn't look back on his first 6 years and think that's enough to get in.

Nomar is pretty much the poster boy for steroids given how his career has gone... well maybe behind Brett Boone.

2a. Robert Horry has 7 NBA Championship Rings. 1st ballot?

Yes, yes he does.