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Does Ortiz contradict himself here?

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  1. mhoddi mhoddi is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 12:52pm)

    <H1>Ortiz says he should still be considered for MVP</H1> ESPN.com news services



    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>David Ortiz, the American League leader in home runs and RBI, says Boston's fall from the American League playoff race should not disqualify him from the race for the AL's Most Valuable Player award.

    <TABLE class=tableheadFixWidth cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width=200 align=right><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD class=whitelink colSpan=2>David Ortiz</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=right><TD align=left>Designated Httr
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    Profile</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow><TD align=middle><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width=190 bgColor=#ffffff border=0><TBODY><TR class=stathead align=middle><TD align=middle colSpan=6>2006 SEASON STATISTICS</TD></TR><TR align=right><TD width="17%">GM</TD><TD width="17%">HR</TD><TD width="17%">RBI</TD><TD width="17%">R</TD><TD width="17%">OBP</TD><TD width="17%">AVG</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ffffff><TD>133</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>127</TD><TD>103</TD><TD>.402</TD><TD>.288</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

    But Ortiz told reporters after the Red Sox's 9-3 win over the Royals on Sunday that he thinks that's what's going to happen.

    "I'll tell you one thing," Ortiz said. "If I get 50 home runs and 10 more RBI [which would give him 137], that's going to be a round number that no one else in the American League will have."

    "But they'll vote for a position player, use that as an excuse. They're talking about [Derek] Jeter a lot, right? He's done a great job, he's having a great season, but Jeter is not a 40-homer hitter or an RBI guy. It doesn't matter how much you've done for your ball club, the bottom line is, the guy who hits 40 home runs and knocks in 100, that's the guy you know helped your team win games.

    "Don't get me wrong -- he's a great player, having a great season, but he's got a lot of guys in that lineup," Ortiz continued. "Top to bottom, you've got a guy who can hurt you. Come hit in this lineup, see how good you can be."

    Ortiz said if he had a vote, he might cast it for Jermaine Dye or Paul Konerko of the Chicago White Sox, or Justin Morneau of the Minnesota Twins.

    "All depends on who makes the playoffs," he said. "Dye is having an unbelievable season, an incredible year. Konerko, too.

    "Morneau, he's having a great season, but in Minnesota, there's no publicity. I bet you nobody knows who he is."

    Ortiz also noted that Alex Rodriguez won the MVP in 2003, despite the fact his Texas Rangers finished last in the AL West. That season, A-Rod hit .298 with 47 home runs and 118 RBI.

    "I'm right there," he said, "but I'm not going to win it. They give it to [Rodriguez] one year, even though his team was in last place, so now they can't play that BS anymore, just because your team didn't make it. They gave it to Alex that year because of his numbers. But they always have a reason to vote for whatever, so that's why I don't worry about it."
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    First he says at the top that the Red Sox fall from the playoffs should not disqualify him from the MVP vote, then at the bottom when asked who he'd give his vote for, he says... "Ortiz said if he had a vote, he might cast it for Jermaine Dye or Paul Konerko of the Chicago White Sox, or Justin Morneau of the Minnesota Twins. "All depends on who makes the playoffs," he said. "Dye is having an unbelievable season, an incredible year. Konerko, too."

    Also, he said that Jeter shouldn't win because everyone in that lineup is a threat, but then he throws out Konerko and Dye. You can make an argument that the White Sox lineup is more potent than the Yankees, seeing how Matsui and Sheffield basically haven't played all year and Melky Cabrera, Nick Green, Aaron Guile, and Craig Wilson have played ]quite a bit. I'm not saying it should be Jeter necessarily, but I think his argument is full of holes.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. truesyalose truesyalose is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 12:54pm) in reply to mhoddi

    a DH should not win the MVP.
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  3. dippydough dippydough is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 12:54pm) in reply to mhoddi

    from an unbiased fan - dye should win, and its not even close.
    but to answer your question, it does sound a bit contradicting.
     
  4. jerichoholic jerichoholic is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 12:56pm) in reply to dippydough

    Frank Thomas should win obv.
  5. bags69_2000 bags69_2000 is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 1:23pm) in reply to jerichoholic

    dye should win....morneau a close second.....ortiz and jeter should be behind both
  6. The Alchemist The Alchemist is offline

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    Sep 11th, 2006 (9/11/2006 1:35pm) in reply to mhoddi

    i agree a DH shouldn't win the MVP....he's lucky he's in the american league, imo. bc if he had to play defense we wouldnt even be talking about this.
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