But but then some people would actually pay taxes and not get back more than they paid in. How is that fair?

 

Originally Posted by StayCalm

I like the flat tax idea, it seems to make a lot of sense. But I personally like the 'Fair Tax' idea better just because its so different and i would love to see it in action to see if it actually works.

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServ...owFairTaxWorks

I like the fair, flat tax of zero percent.

This would only work if you can also repeal the 16th amendment. Otherwise you will eventually be paying both taxes.

 

Originally Posted by XXEDPXX

If that's the case and we need to focus on the tax code itself I'd guess voting for Romney would be the worst thing you could do. Doubt he has any problem with the way it's set up.

I have no intention of voting for Romney (Gary Johnson ftw!) and his tax plan is just one of many reasons. He is talking a big game about eliminating loopholes and lowering the overall rates in his campaign but I'm not buying it. As Obama loves to point out the math just doesn't add up. My point was that it's stupid to hate on him because of his tax return when it's the system that's the problem. Basically what I'm saying is don't hate the player hate the game.

I can't even imagine how bad the economy would be if you took 15 percent from the working poor that are part of the 47 percent now. Do people really think the economy would get better?

I think we leave the tax rates mostly where they are now (add Buffett rule and half the proposed hike on families making over 250k) and lop a bunch off spending (which will no doubt hurt growth as well).

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

flat tax of zero sounds good. If we had to blaze a trail with a machete every time it rained in order to get to the store maybe Americans wouldn't be so fat

Yeah... amazing anything got built in this country prior to the income tax.

Let's get back to main issue here.

And that's the fact that Donald Trump is an egocentric asshole.

 

Originally Posted by XXEDPXX

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I prefer not to put all my hate in one basket, tyvm

Mods plz merge with Fast and Furious (greatest scandal since Watergate!) Thread.

 

Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

Mods plz merge with Fast and Furious (greatest scandal since Watergate!) Thread.

lol somebody also posted Benghazi is a bigger deal than the Iran hostage crisis

So am I supposed to blame Bush for 9-11. Guess I've been doing it wrong all these years

 

Originally Posted by dolphin13

So am I supposed to blame Bush for 9-11. Guess I've been doing it wrong all these years

No. Acts of terror during GOP administrations are national tragedies and reminders that the evil doers want to do us harm.

Acts of terror during DEM administrations are proof of incompetence and weakness.

Bush was a great patriot that did everything to keep us safe

Just look at his sterling record:

Sept-Oct 2001: Anthrax attacks on Congress, NY govt offices, media.
Dec 12, 2001: Foiled plot by Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel to blow up mosque in Culver City, CA, and office of Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA).
Dec 22, 2001: Shoe Bomber Richard Reid fails to blow up AA Flt 63.
July 4, 2002: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet kills 2 at the El Al ticket counter at LAX.
Oct 2002: Beltway Snipers John Allen Muhammed and Boyd Lee Malvo kill 10; Malvo later testifies attacks motivated by "jihad."
April 2003: White supremacists William Krar, Edith Bruey foiled in the Tyler Poison Gas Plot with huge stockpile of cyanide, 100 conventional bombs, and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
June 5, 2003: John Noster arrested in LA w/cache of pipe bombs, jet fuel, weapons, and assorted books alleging a worldwide socialist conspiracy.
March 3, 2005: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azana drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus at UNC at Chapel Hill, injuring 9.
April 3, 2006: Allen Weatherford arrested in MN with cache of weapons, detonation devices, fuel oil, and fertilizer intended to blow up a local courthouse.
July 28, 2006: Naveed Haq kills 1 and hospitalizes 5 in a shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle.
Aug 30, 2006: Omeed Aziz Popal kills 1 and injures 17 in SUV rampage that began in Fremont, CA, and ended at the Jewish Community Center of SF.
Dec 22, 2006: Derrick Shareef’s "violent jihad" attack on an Illinois shopping mall disrupted by feds.
Feb 12, 2007: Sulejman Talović opens fire at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City, killing 5, injuring 4, while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"
July 27, 2008: Jim Adkisson opens fire with a shotgun at a Unitarian Church service because he "hates left-wing liberals," killing 2 and wounding 7.
Not to mention the March 23, 2003 grenade attack by Army Sgt. Hasan Akbar on his fellow members of the 101st Airborne, which killed 2 and wounded 14.

 

Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

No. Acts of terror during GOP administrations are national tragedies and reminders that the evil doers want to do us harm.

Acts of terror during DEM administrations are proof of incompetence and weakness.

Bush was a great patriot that did everything to keep us safe

Just look at his sterling record:

Sept-Oct 2001: Anthrax attacks on Congress, NY govt offices, media.
Dec 12, 2001: Foiled plot by Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel to blow up mosque in Culver City, CA, and office of Congressman Darrell Issa (R-CA).
Dec 22, 2001: Shoe Bomber Richard Reid fails to blow up AA Flt 63.
July 4, 2002: Hesham Mohamed Hadayet kills 2 at the El Al ticket counter at LAX.
Oct 2002: Beltway Snipers John Allen Muhammed and Boyd Lee Malvo kill 10; Malvo later testifies attacks motivated by "jihad."
April 2003: White supremacists William Krar, Edith Bruey foiled in the Tyler Poison Gas Plot with huge stockpile of cyanide, 100 conventional bombs, and 500,000 rounds of ammunition.
June 5, 2003: John Noster arrested in LA w/cache of pipe bombs, jet fuel, weapons, and assorted books alleging a worldwide socialist conspiracy.
March 3, 2005: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azana drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus at UNC at Chapel Hill, injuring 9.
April 3, 2006: Allen Weatherford arrested in MN with cache of weapons, detonation devices, fuel oil, and fertilizer intended to blow up a local courthouse.
July 28, 2006: Naveed Haq kills 1 and hospitalizes 5 in a shooting at the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle.
Aug 30, 2006: Omeed Aziz Popal kills 1 and injures 17 in SUV rampage that began in Fremont, CA, and ended at the Jewish Community Center of SF.
Dec 22, 2006: Derrick Shareef’s "violent jihad" attack on an Illinois shopping mall disrupted by feds.
Feb 12, 2007: Sulejman Talović opens fire at the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake City, killing 5, injuring 4, while shouting "Allahu Akbar!"
July 27, 2008: Jim Adkisson opens fire with a shotgun at a Unitarian Church service because he "hates left-wing liberals," killing 2 and wounding 7.
Not to mention the March 23, 2003 grenade attack by Army Sgt. Hasan Akbar on his fellow members of the 101st Airborne, which killed 2 and wounded 14.

Under Berry we have FT. Hood, officially an incident of workplace violence not terrorism....

Romney/Obama dead heat in MI, fucking Michigan. gg berry

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19...y-in-dead-heat

A flat tax of zero. That's just greedy and fucking sooooooooo. .......stupid.

Then again, that's probably what they have in say.......Antarctica. Go there!!