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    51 years to life. Excessive? Appropriate? He was 3 times over the limit, he fled the scene, and he was already on probation for DUI. 2 other people died along with Adenhart. Still seems excessive when there was no intent. I'm a big crime apologist, though.
  2. Ask the family if that's excessive. He ruined their lives he should kiss his good bye i have no sympathy for people who do stupid shit like this.
  3. Seems about right. Would get the death penalty if it was up to me.
  4. they should let him walk and instead have gotskillz go murk him.
    sends a message, you know, eh
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    Originally Posted by Trav04 View Post

    Ask the family if that's excessive.

    I bet they would say no, but they are a terrible source for objectivity. I'll stick with random people from the internet. I also have no way of getting in touch with them so this isn't a helpful suggestion.
    Edited By: keylight Dec 22nd, 2010 at 09:22 PM
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  6. He also has several prior DUIs, and during the last one signed an agreement acknowledging that if he killed someone while drunk he would be charged with murder. Seems to me like he knew what he was getting into. Lock him up imo
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    Originally Posted by keylight View Post

    I bet they would say no, but they are a terrible source for objectivity. I'll stick with random people from the internet. I also have no way of getting in touch with them so this isn't a helpful suggestion.

    I think if you had a lot of motivation and determination you could easily get in touch with them. I promise you could.

    I mean do you really think he should have a lighter sentence he was still on probation for his 1st DUI. He was 3 times over the legal limit, he fled the scene which means to me even his drunken state he was able to justify what he had done and knew he should get the fuck out of there.
    And oah yeah he killed people. Congrats.

    drown the pos. More helpful?
  8. Sometimes alcoholics just don't know what they are doing and if they don't get help (family, friends) then they will always do this type of stuff. I think the government needs to step up and start issuing the breathalyzer car starting device in everyones car who has had a DUI for at least a couple months. I think it's the governments fault is what I'm saying.
  9.  
    Originally Posted by threeven View Post

    He also has several prior DUIs, and during the last one signed an agreement acknowledging that if he killed someone while drunk he would be charged with murder. Seems to me like he knew what he was getting into. Lock him up imo

    This is fucking retarded. "if you do this again and someone gets hurt that time, well then you're really going to get in trouble." What kind of sense does that make?

    My main problem with DUI laws is that there is such little punishment for the act and then a huge punishment for a bad result of the act. Obviously that should be taken into account, but it's not like attempted murder is a ticket while murder is life. There's just such a huge discrepancy with DUI punishments.
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  10.  
    Originally Posted by Luckpete View Post

    Sometimes alcoholics just don't know what they are doing and if they don't get help (family, friends) then they will always do this type of stuff. I think the government needs to step up and start issuing the breathalyzer car starting device in everyones car who has had a DUI for at least a couple months. I think it's the governments fault is what I'm saying.


    Is this real? lol
  11.  
    Originally Posted by R_U_Nuts View Post

    Would get the death penalty if it was up to me.

    +1
  12.  
    Originally Posted by threeven View Post

    He also has several prior DUIs, and during the last one signed an agreement acknowledging that if he killed someone while drunk he would be charged with murder. Seems to me like he knew what he was getting into. Lock him up imo

    This.
     
  13. 3 people dead-- repeat offender--- sorry- you have to throw the key away on this one...
  14. DUI laws are too lenient.

    He deserves a needle in the arm.
  15. If I remember correctly the guy had 2-3 DUIs prior, sentencing doesn't seem harsh at all imo.
     
  16. Obviously the punishment is acceptable. I thought it was common knowledge that if you drive drunk and kill someone you are facing serious jail time. I'm sure if this was his first offense he'd be receiving 3-5, but this scumbag knew the consequences and decided to not give a fuck and kill 3 people. He also mamed another young man that will live in pain both physically and emotionally the rest of his life.
     
  17.  
    Originally Posted by keylight View Post

    This is fucking retarded. "if you do this again and someone gets hurt that time, well then you're really going to get in trouble." What kind of sense does that make?


    ummm....perfect sense?
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  18.  
    Originally Posted by threeven View Post

    ummm....perfect sense?

    I lol'd
  19. I have two questions. 1), if the driver would have maybe stopped at say, an In-N-Out or a Five Guys and had a burger, would the extra time and alcohol absorption maybe have kept him just sober enough to avoid the tragic accident? And 2), if both burger joints were side by side, which one would have been the tastier choice?
  20. it doesn't. A person is repeatedly committing a crime that puts people in danger. He is faced with little in the way of consequences for those actions. The court tells him the next time he does it, if someone gets hurt then they will throw the book at him? That's insane. Don't give leniency for one crime in exchange for a harsher penalty for some hypothetical future crime especially when the person has shown a pattern of behavior.
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  21. 17 years minimum per life taken. Some may think he got off easy.
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    Originally Posted by 93-97___60-3 View Post

    I have two questions. 1), if the driver would have maybe stopped at say, an In-N-Out or a Five Guys and had a burger, would the extra time and alcohol absorption maybe have kept him just sober enough to avoid the tragic accident? And 2), if both burger joints were side by side, which one would have been the tastier choice?

    Obviously Five Guys
     
  23. I thikn the death penalty should be used almost always in cases of life or near life sentences, because what is the ucking point of serving a life in prison? Wastes resrouces and he won't enjoy it. If it's for something like this then maybe get him a couple of hookers and some blow as his "last meal" before you off him.
    Edited By: heynow21 Dec 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 PM
     
  24. repeat offender hurts his argument
    think a nfl player killed someone drunk driving a yr or so ago and only got 30 days
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    Originally Posted by heynow21 View Post

    I thikn the death penalty should be used almost always in cases of life or near life sentences, because what is the ucking point of serving a life in prison? Wastes resrouces and he won't enjoy it. If it's for something like this then maybe get him a couple of hookers and some blow as his "last meal" before you off him.

    Costs more for death penalty than for life. Thought everyone knew this
  26.  
    Originally Posted by Luckpete View Post

    Sometimes alcoholics just don't know what they are doing and if they don't get help (family, friends) then they will always do this type of stuff. I think the government needs to step up and start issuing the breathalyzer car starting device in everyones car who has had a DUI for at least a couple months. I think it's the governments fault is what I'm saying.

    Are you joking me??? It's not like you are in a different world if you are an alcoholic, get real dude how silly can you be? The governments fault? I really hope this is a level, there can't be people this stupid and misguided.
  27.  
    Originally Posted by keylight View Post

    This is fucking retarded. "if you do this again and someone gets hurt that time, well then you're really going to get in trouble." What kind of sense does that make?

    My main problem with DUI laws is that there is such little punishment for the act and then a huge punishment for a bad result of the act. Obviously that should be taken into account, but it's not like attempted murder is a ticket while murder is life. There's just such a huge discrepancy with DUI punishments.

    True, I'm fine with this being the punishment every time, regardless of what you've done before and whether someone gets killed or not.
  28.  
    Originally Posted by Trav04 View Post

    I think if you had a lot of motivation and determination you could easily get in touch with them. I promise you could.

    drown the pos. More helpful?

    I mean do you really think he should have a lighter sentence he was still on probation for his 1st DUI. He was 3 times over the legal limit, he fled the scene which means to me even his drunken state he was able to justify what he had done and knew he should get the fuck out of there.
    And oah yeah he killed people. Congrats.


    Results oriented much? So how about poker's John Racener (who I like btw) who just got his 3rd DUI. Does he just get a fine and 3 mos b/c he just so happened to not hit another car? What about if it was this guys 1st DUI & he killed Adenhart and 2 others, would you want the same sentence?
    I honestly would like for breathalyzers to be in every fucking car and you have to blow in it to start the car. I know a lot of ppl would hate it b/c of constitutional rights but to me it's not much different then getting molested before flying to make sure we are safe. It makes no sense to me that they are that much more worried about ppl on airlines then in cars since we are in cars 100000000000 X more then in the air.

    I know this won't be a popular opinion but if it would solve people getting killed by drunk drivers I say go for it
    Edited By: orgnalsooners Dec 22nd, 2010 at 11:52 PM
     
  29. shoulda fried him
  30.  
    Originally Posted by heynow21 View Post

    I thikn the death penalty should be used almost always in cases of life or near life sentences, because what is the ucking point of serving a life in prison? Wastes resrouces and he won't enjoy it. If it's for something like this then maybe get him a couple of hookers and some blow as his "last meal" before you off him.

    Guy at Angola was found innocent after serving something like 30 years of his double life sentence. Not saying its the same as this cut and dry case, but what you are saying is dont put anybody to life i prison, just kill them.

    Orgnal...
    If they put a breathalyser in every car, people would easily find a way around it. Only thing to stop this would be a harder sentence for first offense. You get a DWI or you dont blow, you automatically go to jail for 2 weeks. No ifs ands or buts. You get a second...You go for 2 months.

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