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  1. saxman saxman is offline

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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 4:41pm)

    "drive through" not "driver through" ffs

    Maybe not as big an issue in the good old US of A but where i live, it's not uncommon to see cars lined up out onto the street waiting for their morning cup of Tim Hortons. I think that if the store does not have suitable drive through capacity, they should be fined, or at least fine drivers who are waiting on the street blocking traffic.

    Second thing is, do you waste more gas sitting in line, or parking your car, walking inside and then starting your car back up again?

    Thoughts?
    Edited By: saxman Jan 9th, 2012 at 04:47 PM
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 4:56pm) in reply to saxman

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    "drive through" not "driver through" ffs

    Maybe not as big an issue in the good old US of A but where i live, it's not uncommon to see cars lined up out onto the street waiting for their morning cup of Tim Hortons. I think that if the store does not have suitable drive through capacity, they should be fined, or at least fine drivers who are waiting on the street blocking traffic.

    Second thing is, do you waste more gas sitting in line, or parking your car, walking inside and then starting your car back up again?

    Thoughts?

    the car thing, used to be about 60 seconds was break-even on turning it off + starting or leaving running. that was just gas.

    I almost always go in to save time.

    was just talking with my mom last night about buying pretzels from street-corner vendors in st. louis which I only vaguely remember since I was less than 4 years old. they hawked them at stop signs and she said no one honked/got pissed that she remembered. they were very fast though as you can imagine.
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 5:05pm) in reply to EyeKnows

    So you wanna fine successful businesses for being too busy? What kinda commie shit is this?

    First World Problem much? Just wake up a half hour earlier for work bro.
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 5:13pm) in reply to cmval

    Drive thru you big Canadian moose

    :)
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 5:22pm) in reply to EyeKnows

    if there are more than 3 or 4 cars in the line, i almost always park the car and walk in - i would think 60 seconds on the break even sounds about right as far as gas consumption goes.

    imo if you are going to open a drive through business, you should be required to provide suitable drive through facilities - it's not the public's responsibility to have those cars lined up on the street

     
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    Drive thru you big Canadian moose

    :)

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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 6:09pm) in reply to saxman

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    Second thing is, do you waste more gas sitting in line, or parking your car, walking inside and then starting your car back up again?

    Thoughts?

    pretty sure you always use more gas leaving your car running than turning it on and off. especially these days when most new cars are real efficient at starting and whatnot...

    i think the thing that you do wear out is your starter, but that lasts quite a while, especially on new cars
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 9:13pm) in reply to Gags30

    Democrats
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 9:37pm) in reply to Sportbike33

    Simple rule for Timmies is this: 6+ cars in the a.m. you are better off parking. someone is always going to order food, and that justr kills the efficiency of the drive through lane. Timmies should ban food sales at the window, unless it's doughnuts which are pre-made. Less than 6 cars, just pull into the drive through lane.
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 10:07pm) in reply to Milo

    Better off going drive thru. The worst normal wear and tear issue for cars is starting them (primarily because most oil is in the pan at rest).
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 10:17pm) in reply to El Burro

    good point.

    I agree with Milo - might be a better idea for them to limit the selections in the drive though window to expedite things but i guess if i'm the owner of Tim's i want to sell as much product as i can. Pretty sure each franchise comes complete with a line up of cars at the drive thru window.
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 10:33pm) in reply to EyeKnows

     
    Originally Posted by EyeKnows View Post

    the car thing, used to be about 60 seconds was break-even on turning it off + starting or leaving running. that was just gas.

    I almost always go in to save time.

    was just talking with my mom last night about buying pretzels from street-corner vendors in st. louis which I only vaguely remember since I was less than 4 years old. they hawked them at stop signs and she said no one honked/got pissed that she remembered. they were very fast though as you can imagine.

    mmmmmmm love me some Gus's Pretzels. Haven't been in far too long.



    People who wait in long drive thru lines when there isn't a line inside are just lazy (unless they have a car full of kids). And I think in most places if your traffic reaches into the street you can get fined.
     
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 11:41pm) in reply to winwin07

    fuckin canadians
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 11:47pm) in reply to playwithfire05

    I work effed up shifts, so I don't have to deal with drive thru's at "peak" times

    However, timmies coffee sucks dolphin dildo, I always like going to smaller coffee shops for premium coffee.
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    any place that sells "seatle's best" is ok in my books
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 11:54pm) in reply to smokerock247

     
    Originally Posted by smokerock247 View Post

    I work effed up shifts, so I don't have to deal with drive thru's at "peak" times

    However, timmies coffee sucks dolphin dildo, I always like going to smaller coffee shops for premium coffee.
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    any place that sells "seatle's best" is ok in my books

    Where does your wife get her donuts? They must be very good
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 11:55pm) in reply to dolphin13

     
    Originally Posted by dolphin13 View Post

    Where does your wife get her donuts? They must be very good

    im a body builder and my wife is vegan

    i prolly havent had a doughnut in 3 or 4 years
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    Jan 9th, 2012 (1/9/2012 11:59pm) in reply to winwin07

     
    Originally Posted by winwin07 View Post

    And I think in most places if your traffic reaches into the street you can get fined.

    The people causing the traffic disturbance should be ticketed or fined, not the business owner. If the act of fining people causes his business to drop due to people avoiding his restaurant then the market is sending the correct signal to him that it wants a safer location for the traffic they generate. The only way the business owner doesn't get "punished" as well by fining the drivers is if his customers value his service so highly that it offsets any concerns of getting a ticket.
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    Jan 10th, 2012 (1/10/2012 12:07am) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    The people causing the traffic disturbance should be ticketed or fined, not the business owner. If the act of fining people causes his business to drop due to people avoiding his restaurant then the market is sending the correct signal to him that it wants a safer location for the traffic they generate. The only way the business owner doesn't get "punished" as well by fining the drivers is if his customers value his service so highly that it offsets any concerns of getting a ticket.

    I agree that's how it should be but I don't think that's how it is.
     
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    Jan 10th, 2012 (1/10/2012 12:28am) in reply to winwin07

    Dyz is correct however if he ever ventured into a Tim Hortons up here he would understand why the cars aren't being ticketed - cops are some of their most loyal customers lol. I've been told that they don't have to pay for their coffee which ensures a police presence at the stores. Not sure if this is fact tho.
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    Jan 10th, 2012 (1/10/2012 12:33am) in reply to saxman

    Most "experts" will tell you that excessive idling is not good for your engine. I tend to shut the engine off at red lights with "advanced greens" in all directions as I know it is going to be at least a minute before I am going anywhere. It actually does save fuel, I've checked it. One time I did it a Timmies where there was a long (20 cars at least) drive through lane and I was about 15 cars from the box. Lots of horns from the back. Actually explained why to the guy behind me, and he shut his car off, too. Fuck everybody else, they weren't getting to the box any sooner by inching forward one car at a time. Oh, and I never order Timmies coffee, as I hate the bean. Tea, always tea.

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    Dyz is correct however if he ever ventured into a Tim Hortons up here he would understand why the cars aren't being ticketed - cops are some of their most loyal customers lol. I've been told that they don't have to pay for their coffee which ensures a police presence at the stores. Not sure if this is fact tho.

    Myth . . . I have seen them paying.
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    Jan 10th, 2012 (1/10/2012 12:33am) in reply to saxman

     
    Originally Posted by saxman View Post

    Dyz is correct however if he ever ventured into a Tim Hortons up here he would understand why the cars aren't being ticketed - cops are some of their most loyal customers lol. I've been told that they don't have to pay for their coffee which ensures a police presence at the stores. Not sure if this is fact tho.

    And that is just a standard "unintended consequence" of government and power corrupting. It pays for places like 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts to give away free coffee and food to police because it ensures a certain amount of security presence. Its kind of like "donating" to the local police in exchange for a higher level of service. If the byproduct for this particular location is they keep their paying customers form getting ticketed then it is an even bigger "win" for them.
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