LSD made me prematurely gray. Kids- don't take that stuff more than 50 times or you'll spend your 30's on a poker forum getting made fun of by Smokey for being prematurely gray.

wow this thread is really making me want to take molly again

Def drink a lot of water. Sounds crazy, but it enhances it.

Unregulated drug sources are bad for a number of reasons; the largest of which is that I don't make any of money off them. Secondary to that is huge list of concerns, but my main concerns are potency, purity and identity.

Identity should be a fairly OBV concern and someone posted a way back with a link to some low level identity reagents. TBH, using these reagents is better than nothing but it is far from a detailed characterization of what you are ingesting and if you are using them you should be aware that 1) the chemical themselves are dangerous 2) They may give you identity and purity info, but they do not give you potency or dose info. 3) They are qualitative assays and do not give you accurate measurements of active ingredient, just it's presence above a threshold.

Potency and concentration of active ingredient are harder to assess and really more to the point. A pill may say 200mg, but without a method to assess that statement you are really just at the mercy of the dealer. A 200mg pil with only 50% Active ingredient = you got burned. Also not all drug is pharmacologically equal. Depending on structure, processing, raw materials, etc... you are bound to have huge variations in lot to lot potency. This becomes a danger because you base your dose not on accurate information about concentration and potency, but by how it makes you feel. e.g. "this stuff is shit; i'm taking another bump". The danger is that the toxic dose isn't always directly linked to how well the substance performs at getting you high. The other side of that coin is that if you are used to taking low potency drugs at set concentration and then you unknowingly (or even knowingly) switch to higher potency you really run the risk of doing some major damage.

Another huge concern is contaminated/toxic raw materials that get carried over to the drug product during processing. The huge risk here is that you are completely oblivious to their presence and concentration. Moreso their pharmacological/toxicological properties could be totally different than the main active ingredient. It always seems funny when people eat "organic" and then pop two pils of some material manufactured and purified lord knows where.

I'm sure it sounds pretty trivial and most are like "I'm not a fucking idiot; I do my research", but your main risk is just a general lack of transparency. Ironically, I blame the US drug laws for most of it. If it was all legal, we could track/test raw materials, have meaningful purity and potency info and most importantly have physicians or pharmacists to monitor health and use.

recently i had a friend who thought they bought some molly from a guy outside a show and it ended up being bath salts...and he didnt realize until after he did it and someone told him

 

Originally Posted by Hank H1LL

yeah we already said you can't know for sure what you're buying

It's nice having my own personal troll.

Never mix E and alcohol just do E and stay hydrated

 

Originally Posted by LVpokerdealer

Never mix E and alcohol just do E and stay hydrated

People blow this way out of proportion. Being drunk before/while you roll isn't going to hurt you. The urge to drink water while you're rolling is so strong that you're gonna stay hydrated.

Not saying your wrong LV but saying to never mix the two is a little absurd. Most of the times I've rolled I've pre-gamed with booze or drank during.

For somebody rolling for the first time I'd suggest not drinking or smoking weed just because, in my experience, it made the roll less intense. Just take it and let the good times roll. Once it hits you any thoughts of anxiety are going to be laughable.

 

Originally Posted by Shrubbery

wow this thread is really making me want to take molly again

Def drink a lot of water. Sounds crazy, but it enhances it.

PLEASE be CAREFUL about drinking water on any form of MDMA

You can drink yourself to DEATH with too much water.

http://ecstasy.org/qanda/q78.html

I was surprised at how enlightening thes3 pages are:

http://thedea.org/technicalFAQ.html
http://thedea.org/whatisecstasy.html
http://thedea.org/neurotoxicity.html

uh, duh, it's not THE DEA, it's thedea.org, looks like a pro-drug org

 

Originally Posted by userid363

I've done that

In peru/colombia or in your basement
I wanna go do it down there and do it like thousands of natives have for hundred of years

I think messing with acid a few times is no big deal. The experience and enlightenment that is possible is worth it. But doing drugs like that more than say 10-20 times is a terrible idea.

 

Originally Posted by Unforseen

In peru/colombia or in your basement
I wanna go do it down there and do it like thousands of natives have for hundred of years

 

Originally Posted by Shrubbery

how was it? What was your experience?

looks awesome

It was definitely intense. Was in Southern Columbia. Was with some supposed shamans from the jungle. I say supposed because while they had necklaces of puma teeth and spoke unintelligibly in prayer, they also lit incense and prayed to a picture (not a real one) of Jesus.

Well, everyone was having an awful time and throwing up violently and nothing had happened for me so I drank another dose. Now this stuff is the most foul smelling shit you've every even thought of putting into your body and just the smell is enough to puke. A minute after I drank it everything in the room including my face became rubber and swirled around. I thought I was going to die vomiting, then I had visual hallucinations including snakes all over my body for the next 4 hours or so.

It was very very difficult and overall I would not say a pleasant experience.

I did the San Pedro cactus (relative of peyote) and had a better time.

Like acid, or more so, be in a good frame of mind going in.

The first and only time I've done acid I hated it. It was a random monday and my roomate was flippin it up at the University of Iowa. We were chillen in my apartment and I thought he was going to chill/trip with me since it was my first time but he ended up leaving to go sell the rest of it off. Didn't really want to move as I was tripping balls so decided to hop onto pstars and 1 table the 100r 6max. Played fucking lights out the entire tourney until the last hand. Like couldn't believe the shit I was doing/thinking. It was awesome too because the avatars we're like talking to eachother, and just the visuals from them was a cool site. Ended up bubbling the ft in 7th after 7bet shoving k9o into moormans AA. Sigh, woulda been an epic story if I shipped it. Long story short, my trip just fell off a cliff after busting. Like I couldn't let it go and then all my depressions hit me all at once like a train and I just couldn't get out of that funk.

Would definitely like to try it again under better circumstances.

Found an awesome website about ayahuasca

http://www.ayahuasca-info.com/index/

has histories, recipes, experiences...

def gonna try to make this sometime in the near future

Recipe:

• 50 grams of Banisteriopsis caapi (whole vine, not shredded/powdered)
• 12 grams of Mimosa hostilis root bark (not shredded or powdered.) [See Note 1]
• white vinegar
• distilled water
• 4 stainless steel pots [See Note 2]

1. Wrap the caapi in a towel and break it up with a hammer until it is shredded. Powder the mimosa with a coffee grinder or shred by hand.

2. In one pot, put in the mimosa, a teaspoon of vinegar, and a liter or so of water.

3. In another pot, put in the caapi, and a similar amount of water and vinegar.

4. Simmer for 2-3 hours or until water level gets low. Avoid boiling -- it should be just cool enough not to bubble. Speak your intentions to the brew as it is brewing; listen to the sounds it makes. Do not leave it unattended; if you need to do something different, turn off the stove.

5. Keeping the mimosa and the caapi separate, filter each through a cloth (e.g. a t-shirt) until the brew becomes clear, probably 4 or 5 times. (An excellent method for easy filtering is to duct tape a t-shirt over an empty pot, allowing you both hands to pour the brew. The t-shirt will become quickly clogged, so for each filter you must use a fresh section of cloth.) Put the mimosa tea in a pot for mimosa, the caapi in a pot for caapi, and reduce both; remember not to bring to a full boil.

6. Repeat steps 2-5 three times, keeping the mimosa and caapi separate. The plant material is to be boiled a total of three times with fresh water and vinegar each time; the brewed/filtered tea is kept separate and reduced over low heat as you do the second and third washes. This method requires four pots, unless you spread it out over several nights.

7. At this point you will have a pot containing the three washes of mimosa, reduced, and the same for the caapi. Each dose should be no smaller than half a cup and no larger than a cup. (Less concentrated brews taste better, but leave you with more to drink.) Put them in the fridge overnight.

8. The next day, carefully remove the cooled mimosa from the fridge. Through a t-shirt filter, pour off the liquid; avoid disturbing the sludge/sediment on the bottom of the container. You don't need it. DO NOT do this with the reduced caapi brew; if you've filtered properly, your tea should be pretty clean. It should become clear when heated, and have a purplish color, much like red wine.

9. Once you have done this, you have the option of combining the mimosa and the caapi or drinking the mimosa after the caapi. Shake up the caapi to make sure that any sediment is in the tea and not on the bottom of the container. Heat up the tea, drinking it warm.

Redic process but seems more than worth it

 

Originally Posted by iamthedeck ftw

"I don't do drugs.. just weed."

Still a time and a place for everything!!!