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Not asking who is better.
Suppose Brady s career ended after yesterdays game. If you could have either ones career would you take:
Elway .- Lost his first 3 Superbowl's (blowouts) to win the last 2 on his last 2 seasons
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Brady .- Won 3 early and lost 2 heart breakers late
Gisele doesn't count for the argument either.
So OT WUG? -
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Don't think it matters when u won or lost when u look back at the career and #'s are the same. I will say that Elway was a better QB and if Elway was coached by Belichek that he would've had at least 1 more SB. I could also say that if Brady ever had a RB like Terrell Davis that he might have 99 more super bowls
Edited By: orgnalsooners Feb 6th, 2012 at 11:27 PM
& Gisele counts! -
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Pretty hard to do a compare and contrast when Brady's book ain't over yet.
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Brady and its not even close
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Elway aniec
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Id have to go with Brady.
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Elway does not compare with Brady.
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So your choices are between 3/5, or 2/5?
Uh....what? Pretty sure I'll take 3. -
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Elway
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thisOriginally Posted by thereraise
Elway
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How great would it be to go out with back to back wins.
Work your entire career for one goal, get so close so many times and then finally do it twice and retire. I think I'm taking Elway as long as we are strictly talking football and not the whole Gisele thing, but I think his scenario is the only way I would take 2 over 3.
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what was Elway's career TD/Int ratio?
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Look at that win % for Brady, it is regronkulious.
Edited By: zeppelinzoso16 Feb 7th, 2012 at 05:21 AM
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Dumbest post in the thread.Originally Posted by MiamiNole
what was Elway's career TD/Int ratio?
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you can always throw the "elway couldn't do it with terrell davis" card @ elway. you can't do that for brady. -
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Brady imo... but the best thing I learned from Zep's post is that David Carr has lost 20 more starts than Tom Brady. With 101 fewer wins...
Edited By: zander Feb 7th, 2012 at 05:34 AM
Also TD should be in the "Koufax" wing of Canton. With Sterling Sharpe and Bo Jackson. Studs whose careers didn't have longevity but whose stars burned brighter than most HOFers at their peaks... -
Dude the season just ended literally last night. how about we take a break from the hypothetical football questions. Is this some burning question anyway? There is no right answer here. Not sure what one could really gain from this.
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Brady couldn't do it without BelichekOriginally Posted by warden
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you can always throw the "elway couldn't do it with terrell davis" card @ elway. you can't do that for brady. -
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i don't think coaches are weighted the same way. brady was still the best player on the field, and i'm not so sure elway was.
plus, by that logic, you could say elway never won without shanahan, and montana never won without walsh.
BUT BIG BEN WON WITH BOTH COWHER AND TOMLIN
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I know the logic isn't sound, I was just fucking around. But seriously Elway dealt with Wade Phillips and Dan Reeves as well as Shanahan. If he had a HOF coach throughout his career it might have been more than 2 Super BowlsOriginally Posted by warden
i don't think coaches are weighted the same way. brady was still the best player on the field, and i'm not so sure elway was.
plus, by that logic, you could say elway never won without shanahan, and montana never won without walsh.
BUT BIG BEN WON WITH BOTH COWHER AND TOMLIN
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I take brady. Brady has a top notch gm.
Plus that year where half the patriots team were scrubs filling in for injured stars all year brady brought them together and made them better. He was seriously the only really good player left. (Kinda what peyton mannings been doing too but nobody noticed until he was gone. But at least he had reggie wayne.)
Its hard to say what elway couldve done with more talent in many of those years tbh. I just compare what brady did with zippppp and it makes it easier. I wonder what brady couldve done with those broncos. -
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Brady couldn't have done it without Belichick?Originally Posted by warden
brady
you can always throw the "elway couldn't do it with terrell davis" card @ elway. you can't do that for brady.
Guess I should read all the replies before coming up with my "original, witty" posts.Originally Posted by yomamanodros
Brady couldn't do it without Belichek
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but you can say brady cant do it without gronkowki :)
Originally Posted by warden
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you can always throw the "elway couldn't do it with terrell davis" card @ elway. you can't do that for brady. -
that is true. He only has 3 rings w/o him
Originally Posted by bjt86
but you can say brady cant do it without gronkowki :)
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