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  1. cizastro cizastro is online now

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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:05pm)

    No-no through 7IP.

    Chisenhall breaks it up.

    I see he was too scared to keep pitching to Chisenhall.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:06pm) in reply to cizastro

    The Indians radio guy keeps saying they are being "no-hitted" rather than "no-hit". It's bugging the shit out of me.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:22pm) in reply to jimmyjames

    thru 8
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:23pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

    There have now been 25 no-hitters in MLB history where a run (or more) has been scored against the pitcher. Just a FYI.
    Edited By: cizastro Jul 27th, 2011 at 07:37 PM
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:27pm) in reply to cizastro

    Indians have 5 errors...beautiful

    1st game i've watched on my new MLB package. Hope Santana finishes it here

    BOOM
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:29pm) in reply to Luho

    Wooooo! Reverse jinx ftw! I had Santana on 2 of my fantasy baseball teams. What a beastly performance. I'm sure the Angels player who committed that error early on is kicking themself.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:32pm) in reply to cizastro

     
    Originally Posted by cizastro View Post

    Wooooo! Reverse jinx ftw! I had Santana on 2 of my fantasy baseball teams. What a beastly performance. I'm sure the Angels player who committed that error early on is kicking themself.

    he gave up a walk in the 8th i think.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:35pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

     
    Originally Posted by poisoneye1986 View Post

    he gave up a walk in the 8th i think.


    Still a no hitter
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:37pm) in reply to ibarrio

    Congrats Ervin.

    Go Halos.
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:37pm) in reply to ibarrio

     
    Originally Posted by cizastro View Post

    I'm sure the Angels player who committed that error early on is kicking themself.

     
    Originally Posted by poisoneye1986 View Post

    he gave up a walk in the 8th i think.

     
    Originally Posted by ibarrio View Post

    Still a no hitter

    i was talking about that.
    Edited By: poisoneye1986 Jul 27th, 2011 at 07:38 PM
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 7:53pm) in reply to poisoneye1986

    Ciz was obviously thinking about fantasy value b/c the error resulted in the lack of the CG SO
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:08pm) in reply to Luho

    Woot woot. Santana was a beast today.
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:08pm) in reply to Luho

    Not just that, Luho, but I think Santana approaches the AB with Chisenhall much differently if he's on the verge of a perfect game. I think he gives Chisenhall a better chance to hit the ball instead of drawing a walk. At that point, he knows he has no perfect game so he can try and get him to chase a pitch. With a perfect game on the line, I think he deals something over the plate and just hopes that it's not hit for a base hit. It's all hypothetical though.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:10pm) in reply to cizastro

    1st no-hitter but run scored since 1933 or some shit. lol "no hitter 3-1"
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:14pm) in reply to cizastro

     
    Originally Posted by cizastro View Post

    Not just that, Luho, but I think Santana approaches the AB with Chisenhall much differently if he's on the verge of a perfect game. I think he gives Chisenhall a better chance to hit the ball instead of drawing a walk. At that point, he knows he has no perfect game so he can try and get him to chase a pitch. With a perfect game on the line, I think he deals something over the plate and just hopes that it's not hit for a base hit. It's all hypothetical though.

    Seriously man? You think out of all the hitters in Cleveland's lineup, Santana is scared of Chisenhall?
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:15pm) in reply to gamma21

    NCJ, there have been quite a few since then. The last one was in 1993 by Darryl Kile. A 7-1 victory no-no.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:16pm) in reply to norcaljeff

     
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    1st no-hitter but run scored since 1933 or some shit. lol "no hitter 3-1"

    Not Santana's fault. It isn't like Santana pitched an Edwin Jackson no-hitter with 6 BB's and 165 pitches. Santana was dominant today and the Indians scoring 1 run doesn't take anything away from his performance.
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 8:48pm) in reply to gamma21

     
    Originally Posted by gamma21 View Post

    Not Santana's fault. It isn't like Santana pitched an Edwin Jackson no-hitter with 6 BB's and 165 pitches. Santana was dominant today and the Indians scoring 1 run doesn't take anything away from his performance.

    run scored on a wild pitch.... Francisco Liriano....123

    fyp
    Edited By: TMLMS13 Jul 27th, 2011 at 08:54 PM
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 9:00pm) in reply to gamma21

     
    Originally Posted by gamma21 View Post

    Seriously man? You think out of all the hitters in Cleveland's lineup, Santana is scared of Chisenhall?

    I don't think he was afraid of Chisenhall, but that was one of the few AB's where Santana fell behind. I believe he fell behind 3-1 on the count, so the advantage goes towards the hitter. It's less about the hitter and more about the count.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 9:55pm) in reply to TMLMS13

     
    Originally Posted by TMLMS13 View Post

    run scored on a wild pitch.... Francisco Liriano....123

    fyp

    What were you fixing? Edwin Jackson pitched a no-hitter in pretty much the exact way I described. If it's an unearned run it isn't the pitchers fault. Aybar makes that play and nobody reaches base that inning.

    Edwin Jackson walked 8 hitters and threw almost 150 pitches.
    Edited By: gamma21 Jul 27th, 2011 at 09:57 PM
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 11:03pm) in reply to gamma21

    ok I take back fixing the Jackson part, I thought u were talking about the Lirano one which was like that (Jackson was the opposing pitcher there)

    But it was a Santana wild pitch that scored the run, so you can blame him for it. Maybe he got to third on an error but he got to 2nd on Santana. It is unearned but he isnt blameless
    Edited By: TMLMS13 Jul 27th, 2011 at 11:03 PM
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 11:13pm) in reply to TMLMS13

     
    Originally Posted by TMLMS13 View Post

    ok I take back fixing the Jackson part, I thought u were talking about the Lirano one which was like that (Jackson was the opposing pitcher there)

    But it was a Santana wild pitch that scored the run, so you can blame him for it. Maybe he got to third on an error but he got to 2nd on Santana. It is unearned but he isnt blameless

    Wat? An unearned run is an unearned run.
     
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 11:27pm) in reply to norcaljeff

     
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    1st no-hitter but run scored since 1933 or some shit. lol "no hitter 3-1"

    Andy Hawkins when the Yankees were horribad in 1990 pitched a no-hitter for the Yanks against the White Sox where the White Sox won 4-0. A year later they changed the rule, and they took away his no hitter since he wasn't given an opportunity to pitch the bottom of the 9th since the White Sox were already ahead. Since he only pitched 8 innings they took the no hitter out of the record books.
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    Jul 27th, 2011 (7/27/2011 11:30pm) in reply to wackyJaxon

     
    Originally Posted by wackyJaxon View Post

    Andy Hawkins when the Yankees were horribad in 1990 pitched a no-hitter for the Yanks against the White Sox where the White Sox won 4-0. A year later they changed the rule, and they took away his no hitter since he wasn't given an opportunity to pitch the bottom of the 9th since the White Sox were already ahead. Since he only pitched 8 innings they took the no hitter out of the record books.

    Jered Weaver did the same thing against the Dodgers a couple years ago. He lost 1-0.
     
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