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  1. "Via Radley Balko comes the tale of Tunde Clement, a New York City resident stopped in the Albany, New York, bus terminal by police for no good reason, subject to a brutal search, and then billed for the cost of his own abuse.

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    He was quickly handcuffed and falsely arrested. He was taken to a station to be strip-searched and then to a hospital, where doctors forcibly sedated him with a cocktail of powerful drugs, including one that clouded his memory of the incident.

    A camera was inserted in his rectum, he was forced to vomit and his blood and urine were tested for drugs and alcohol. Scans of his digestive system were performed using X-ray machines, according to hospital records obtained by the Times Union.

    The search, conducted without a search warrant, came up empty.

    In all, Clement spent more than 10 hours in custody before being released with nothing more than an appearance ticket for resisting arrest -- a charge that was later dismissed.
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    Clement was billed $6,792 by the Albany Medical Center Hospital for the cost of his forcible drugging and ... well ... anal rape.

    The egregious misconduct by Albany County Sheriff's Department deputies in the case is obvious. The <SPAN>Times-Union</SPAN> article rightly expends much ink on the history of abusive and, apparently, racially motivated searches conducted by police at that bus terminal.

    But what about the doctors and nurses who voluntarily participated in the violation of this man's rights?

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    [J]ust before noon, Clement -- fully shackled and still in custody for a minor offense -- shuffled into Albany Medical Center Hospital with a phalanx of cops at his side, hospital records show.

    He was locked in a gurney and listened anxiously as a group of doctors and nurses debated the cops' request to have Clement forcibly sedated so his body could be searched for drugs.

    The doctors asked Clement to sign a consent form, but he refused.

    The medical records show one of the doctors placed a call to the hospital's risk management director to assess the liability exposure of what they were about to do.

    In some cases, prisoners or people under arrest can be forcibly sedated without a court order if they are in imminent danger, such as when a bag of drugs bursts open inside them and they begin to have a seizure or fall unconscious. But the hospital's records indicate Clement was behaving normally and showed no signs of any medical emergency.

    &quot;Spoke to Shirley of Risk Management,&quot; a physician wrote, documenting the medical decision-making that afternoon. &quot;OK to treat, sedate &amp; remove FOB (foreign object body) against (patient's) will despite his personal refusal.&quot;
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    Note that police had <SPAN>no search warrant</SPAN>. Even if a warrant had been presented, medical personnel are under no obligation to cooperate with police in inflicting such an ordeal on a prisoner. The article refers to one San Francisco hospital's refusal to cooperate with police, and I quickly found another such incident from Davidson County, Tennessee in which doctors balked at even drawing blood without the subject's approval. There seems to be plenty of precedent for declining to forcibly administer powerful drugs and then insert equipment into an unwilling patient's rectum without a <SPAN>really</SPAN> good reason.

    So what excuse do the medical personnel at Albany Medical Center Hospital have for committing battery upon Tunde Clement?

    The hospital administration seems to have clammed up, but I can think of two different rationales for the actions of the doctors and nurses at that scene.

    Most or all of the people present may have been the kind of creatures who think the police can do no wrong. They may have <SPAN>willingly</SPAN> collaborated in the brutalization of a fellow human being.

    Or maybe the doctors and nurses were intimidated by overbearing police officers. Perhaps, surrounded by ticked-off deputies with a reputation for working outside the bounds of the law, they <SPAN>grudgingly</SPAN> cooperated with the egregious civil rights violation.

    Dissenters in the room may have walked away and refused to participate, or else swallowed their pride for fear of their jobs.

    I lean toward the willing-collaborators explanation. Emergency room docs -- and this was almost certainly in the emergency room -- are, by and large (yes, I'm generalizing here in a big way), cowboy adrenaline junkies with minimal empathy. They don't intimidate easily, and they don't spend loads of time agonizing over moral quandaries. They're also likely to laugh at cops who get in their faces. &quot;Were you counting on anesthesia the next time a uniform shows up in my ER?&quot; is a not-unlikely rejoinder to any police officer who tries to get emergency room staffers to do what they don't want to do.

    But either way, medical personnel, like the rest of us, are responsible for their actions. In the absence of guns at their heads, doctors and nurses must answer for the things they do -- even if those things are performed at the request of state officials.

    You don't get a moral get-out-of-jail-free card because the cops said &quot;pretty please&quot; before you agreed to participate in a horrible civil rights violation.

    As much as I hope the Albany County Sheriff's Department is penalized for its conduct in this matter (and its overall history of conducting abusive searches) I also think the administration and some staff members at the Albany Medical Center Hospital also need to answer for their actions. As the Clement case makes abundantly clear, collaborators make possible rights violations that don't need to happen. Hospital personnel couldn't have undone Clement's arrest, but they could have refused to enable -- and had no right to participate in -- the rest of the man's ordeal.

    Let's hope Tunde Clement's lawsuit against both institutions makes him a wealthy man -- and the cops and doctors of Albany just a little more thoughtful.&quot;

    http://www.tuccille.com/blog/2008/05...violation.html

    Nice job adhering to the Hippocratic Oath docs.
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  2. I had a feeling you also were a fan of the Agitator Dyz, now I know...me too.
  3. &quot;stopped for no good reason&quot;?

    &quot;false arrest&quot;?

    &quot;memory-clouding drugs&quot;?
    now why do i think there may be more to the story?
  4. there HAS to be more to this story...
  5. Here's the story I originally read, it doesnt have a ton of details but at least describes the circumstances (via www.theagitator.com)

    &quot;It now also appears that the city’s sheriff’s department has engaged in a routine of racial profiling, harassment, and illegal searches going back 20 years at Albany’s main bus terminal. The department is facing a lawsuit from a man named Tunde Clement, who it should probably be noted does have a long history of drug offenses. But in this particular case, Clement was clean. Sheriff’s deputies confronted Clement as he was departing a bus, took him to the men’s bathroom, and searched him. When they found no drugs, they arrested him for “resisting arrest,” a charge that was later thrown out, given that you can’t arrest someone for “resisting arrest” if they haven’t committed a crime that should have resulted in arrest in the first place.

    The police then strip-searched Clement, and made him squat in front of them. The claimed to have seen white powder on his anus So they took him to a hospital. Without his consent, they then administered drugs to sedate him, induced him to vomit, put a camera up his rectum, and took x-rays of him. Such drastic measures against the consent of a patient usually require officials to show some sort of imminent emergency. There was no such emergency with Clement. And still, no drugs. The hospital later sent Clement a bill for $6,800, and diagnosed him as having “hemorrhoids.”

    The Sheriff’s Department’s Drug Interdiction Unit was already under scrutiny. It’s also facing a lawsuit from another officer whose thumb was shot off during a botched drug raid. An internal affairs investigation found that the drug unit was mismanaged and poorly supervised, and recommended discipline against the unit and its leader, Inspector John Burke.

    No such action was ever taken.&quot;
  6. you and ecu girl schould have a competition over whose posts could make me hate them more

    btw, i didnt read your post
  7. Radley Balko doesn't make shit up. He also doesn't spin. Check out his writings and see if he isn't the voice of reason and clarity in a sometimes unreasonable and unclear world.

    http://www.theagitator.com/published-works/
  8. Yea, Radley is the man...and it must be noted he testified before Congress in favor of legalizing online poker.
  9. Guess you hate Jefferson, Adams and Franklin as well for their writings in the 18th century.
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  10. well in that case.....this is just fucked up
  11. TheDude12424,

    Too bad you paint with a broad brush. You will miss the importance and completeness of detail.
  12. Love ECU's posts, and don't hate DYZ...just have to agree to disagree with him most of the time.
    The dude needs to post HIS opinions so everybody can bash him, if he's going to be bashing others for posting theirs IMO
  13. he had white powder on his anus. he had it coming.
  14. I think thedude just did post his opinion, hes in favor of getting forcibly fingerbanged in public bathrooms. Now we know.
  15. i've posted lotsa my opinions

    see: catholic schools vs public schools

    see: whey teachers who complain about salary are douchebags

    see: i think you're a homo
  16. not uh! you are!
  17. so all of your opinions involve schoolchildren and homosexuality...i sure hope they dont let you near any playgrounds.
  18. wouldn't it be a white liquid on his anus if he had it.....nvm...
  19. I actually had this same thing happen to me to a lesser degree (my trapdoor is still a virgin) at a hospital in Idaho.

    Apparently some kid had died like a week earlier from ingesting a bag of meth while running from the cops, so when being arrested I let it slip that I had recently eaten some brownies, they forced me to go to the hospital, get cuffed to a cot in the ER, and either pee in a cup and drink charcoal (which makes u squirt black from both ends) or they said they would forcefully extract the pee with a catheter and (using a seperate tube I would hope) force the charcoal mix down my throat.

    On top of it all I received an ER bill for $650 two weeks later.

    Weak sauce, no pun intended
  20. I live in Albany

    Damn I didn't know there was a past record of this kind of behavior
  21. if you don't look, how do you expect to find?

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