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ExxonMobile Pipeline Ruptures in Montana

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  1. HeyNiceAscot HeyNiceAscot is offline

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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 1:12am)

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43619388...s-environment/

    I mean seriously this is disturbing. The Yellowstone river is home to some of the best river fishing in the US and now it has a substantial amount of oil in the water. These oil companies really need to review their safety measures.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:17am) in reply to HeyNiceAscot

    Drill baby drill
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:19am) in reply to dolphin13

     
    Originally Posted by dolphin13 View Post

    Drill baby drill

    What's your proposal?
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:21am) in reply to Camz

     
    Originally Posted by Camz View Post

    What's your proposal?

    cut all tax credits and loopholes for oil companies and raise the taxes on gas. Then watch America quickly learn how to live without oil. There will be a couple years of struggle but we'll be better in the long run.
    Edited By: dolphin13 Jul 3rd, 2011 at 02:22 AM
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:26am) in reply to dolphin13

     
    Originally Posted by dolphin13 View Post

    cut all tax credits and loopholes for oil companies. Then watch America quickly learn how to live without oil. There will be a couple years of struggle but we'll be better in the long run.


    fyp.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:30am) in reply to phish42O

     
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    fyp.

    id have to take a look at the numbers and see. but oil over 4.00 seems to be where theres some push for alternatives. id like to see it over 5.00
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:30am) in reply to dolphin13

     
    Originally Posted by dolphin13 View Post

    id have to take a look at the numbers and see. but oil over 4.00 seems to be where theres some push for alternatives. id like to see it over 5.00


    no u wouldnt. it would destroy the middle class. or whats left of it.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:34am) in reply to phish42O

     
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    no u wouldnt. it would destroy the middle class. or whats left of it.

    maybe that's what needs to happen.

    it wouldnt destroy it though. I'm middle class and it wouldn't have a real effect. It would be a great wake up call for people though.
    Edited By: dolphin13 Jul 3rd, 2011 at 02:35 AM
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:44am) in reply to dolphin13

    We should be able to pursue alternative energy efficiently enough in the private sector.

    When it becomes profitable that will happen.

    Safety measures are key. Oil powers damn near everything and the usa would fn collapse and be in anarchy if we stop drilling. It would not just be a few years of struggle....puhleeze.

    Continuing to drill with enhanced safety measures while researching and slowly integrating alternative energy is the right answer
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:46am) in reply to dolphin13

     
    Originally Posted by dolphin13 View Post

    maybe that's what needs to happen.

    it wouldnt destroy it though. I'm middle class and it wouldn't have a real effect. It would be a great wake up call for people though.

    yea, but you and me live in the city.

    take a commuter that makes 30k and drives 50 miles a day. he is losing a decent portion of his disposable income. gas needs to be at about 2.50 if the oligarchs want the economy to pick up.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 2:55am) in reply to phish42O

     
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    yea, but you and me live in the city.

    take a commuter that makes 30k and drives 50 miles a day. he is losing a decent portion of his disposable income. gas needs to be at about 2.50 if the oligarchs want the economy to pick up.

    My office is 47 miles away. So it's 94 miles a day. Thankfully I only have to go to the office 1-2 times a week. But at least 1-2 days a week I'm driving 25 miles away.

    I generally agree with what Preston said. I don't thimk we should stop drilling, but more drilling isn't the answer. A good chunk of oil we have is only profitable to remove when oil prices are at high levels. Its not like we have all this oil we can take out and gas will be 2.00 a gallon. They'd stop drilling if gas fell to those levels because they'd be losing money.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 3:20am) in reply to dolphin13

    I agree Dolphin but if OPEC was broken and true oil free market was allowed to operate prices would come down too. But the downside of cheap oil is waste, avoidable pollution and an increased dependency on our crack habit. I still think we need to upgrade our 1960's nuclear technology.
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    Jul 3rd, 2011 (7/3/2011 3:32am) in reply to ginwilly

    So a pipeline broke - they will fix it. Is this really that big a deal?
    Edited By: kellykip Jul 3rd, 2011 at 03:33 AM
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