Or maybe just stalled.

Anyway, the other day I came across an article off twitter that really struck my attention. This article on how the city of LA council voted 14-0 to ban medical marijuana dispensaries. And I was pretty shocked at this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1698671.html

I think this sets a bad precedent for the future for not only full legalization but just for the medical marijuana movement in general. I would like to see Gary Johnson get his chance to speak in presidential election debates. I think this could help open some eyes since it is an issue he is focusing his campaign on somewhat.

But it seems to me and most polls taken on the subject that the country is split 50-50 on legalization and it seems the pro marijuana side is always gaining ground slowly but surely. But Im afraid that even if 80% of the nation wants legal pot, will we be able to defeat the pharmaceutical companies to get it?

One problem I see is a lot of marijuana smokers dont vote. Be nice if we could vote some pro pot people into congress and at local levels as well.

I really thought a year or two we (pro pot, full legalization supporters) were really gaining some fucking steam. But now I just dont see it. Maybe Im just pessimistic as always and if I am someone set me straight.

I know..I wanted to put that in my post...its like the only exception I think.

the movement is still growing, and polls show that once older voters die off, it will be somewhat of a landslide in our favor. this chart is almost a year old:



and this ban isn't as bad as it sounds on the surface, they just want to start over:

"The so-called “soft ban” would still allow hospices and home health agencies to provide medical marijuana, and individuals would be allowed to grow and share cannabis in their homes or apartments. The idea is to provide safe and affordable access to marijuana for those who legitimately need it, but to clean up the neighborhoods that have been negatively impacted by dispensaries."

" L.A. passed an ordinance two years ago that was supposed to shut down hundreds of dispensaries and cap the number at 70, but legal challenges prevented it from being effective, and it expired last month—subsequently, a surge of dispensaries have cropped up. According to officials, 762 collectives have registered with the city, and as many as 200 more could exist. "We need to start with a clean slate," says Councilman Mitchell Englander. "Los Angeles has experimented with marijuana and has failed."

http://www.thefix.com/content/los-an...pot-shops90431

says the old guy speaking of old people.

City of Chicago just decriminalized weed a few weeks ago. It is now just a ticket-able offense to possess up to 15 grams. #progress

sure lol, just being age-ist.

I'm sure if waco's chart was limited to americans in their 20's it would be closer to 75% 'support.' the real difficulty imo will be decriminalizing weed at the federal level. we've already seen states vote it through themselves only to find the feds breathing down their necks.

my son had a very valid point when we were talking about this - lot of us casual smokers hate the idea of buying from someone who buys from someone who supports a major op or is involved in some type of organized crime. That's the one thing legalizing would definitely do for us. For the most part, the cops don't care about casual users and people growing small amounts. They have bigger fish to fry.

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

Starting over in LA is a good idea. The dispensaries are so corrupt and still controlled by criminal elements.

Care to explain? Who are these mysterious criminal elements you speak of?

I believe its on the balot in washington coming up, but as a medical card holder im not sure how im going to vote. I have full access whenever i want it and dont pay that much extra for the convienence. Pretty much anyone can get a card; but if it was legal prices would go up and who knows of the quality. Might also cause them to up the lookout for private grows because it cuts out the governments profits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...tive_502_(2011)

 

Originally Posted by hooperzl

I believe its on the balot in washington coming up, but as a medical card holder im not sure how im going to vote. I have full access whenever i want it and dont pay that much extra for the convienence. Pretty much anyone can get a card; but if it was legal prices would go up and who knows of the quality. Might also cause them to up the lookout for private grows because it cuts out the governments profits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washing...tive_502_(2011)

I don't see prices going up, if anything the market will become more competitive and prices will fall. With regards to quality you will always be able to find what you're looking for.

 

Originally Posted by p00pymcp00perton

The correct answer. It'll gain traction sooner than later with full legalization eventually taking place within the next 25 years (that is if we all don't float off into space Dec 21st, 2012).

Im solid... Just watched "Twister" the other day. Went out and bought a sweet leather strap to hold myself to earth till this fucker starts spinning again. Once I get a few of these smoothies in me Im sure I'll be totally set.

Well I will do some research on what the plans are here if it is fully legalized before making my decision. We will have lots of information coming our way soon.

 

Originally Posted by I Fold

How do you grow an illegal substance legally? They have grow ops in cali that allow growers to grow up to twelve plants per patient that they are the care givers for and they receive licenses to do this from the state. If they are growing without this and making it an illegal grow, its still way better than getting your drugs from a real criminal element like the fucking Cartel.

And again pot was grown illegally long before 1996 when they enacted the MM program.

That is the point. Nobody is selling 12 plants to the dispensaries. The whole thing is fucked, corrupt and illegal. Medicinal marijuana in California the way it is written is retarded. It needs to be redone

Pretty naive if you think cartel and related elements are not active in California dispensaries

 

Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16

That is the point. Nobody is selling 12 plants to the dispensaries. The whole thing is fucked, corrupt and illegal. Medicinal marijuana in California the way it is written is retarded. It needs to be redone

Pretty naive if you think cartel and related elements are not active in California dispensaries

In the absence of MM law, what the fuck do you think happens? The only corrupt aspect is the ease in which one can obtain a license. If the state is going to allow the use of medical Marijuana it in turn must authorize its growth for that purpose. A grower can grow 12 plants per patient legally and cover hundreds of patients so that scary warehouse scenario is actually a legal business venture. You act like the Cali cartel is smuggling weed in the vaginas of 12 year olds to get us medical marijuana.