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  1. fcdunkin fcdunkin is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:19am)

    I worked and was friends with this prick's son....but still fucked up he had to give it up.


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow...194650751.html


    A Massachusetts fisherman pulled in an 881-pound tuna this week only to have the federal authorities take it away. It sounds like a libertarian twist on the classic novella by Ernest Hemingway, The Old Man and the Sea, but for Carlos Rafael, the saga is completely true.


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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:24am) in reply to fcdunkin

    Why? I need an explanation, talk to me like I'm 4 years old.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:25am) in reply to Mr323

    A 754 pound tuna sold for $396,000? Article seems a bit fishy.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:28am) in reply to Mr323

     
    Originally Posted by Mr323 View Post

    Why? I need an explanation, talk to me like I'm 4 years old.

    Rules are rules...
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:28am) in reply to Mr323

     
    Originally Posted by Mr323 View Post

    Why? I need an explanation, talk to me like I'm 4 years old.

    The permit he had only allowed him to catch a Bluefin w/ a rod and reel, not a net. He owns a few dragger vessels, which fish w/ nets
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:31am) in reply to Luho

    Yeah, ty for replies on this. So a human can't go and catch a fish without permits and bullshit. Seriously, gg America. So wrong.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:32am) in reply to Luho

     
    Originally Posted by Luho View Post

    But seriously, as a big fisher myself. You're not a child anymore. People shouldn't have to tell you everything about what you can and cannot do. Sometimes you simply need to read up on, and figure out, what kind of permit you have and what you are allowed to do and not do.

    Because you know every law that has jurisdiction over you as well as how it will be interpreted by various levels of law enforcement and the justice system. The Patriot Act was to get terrorists, right? Obamacare, "we need to pass it to find out what's in it", is still being written by regulators. I would agree with you if we didn't add thousands of new regulations every year and have been doing so for decades now.
    Edited By: Dyzalot Nov 23rd, 2011 at 04:32 AM
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:33am) in reply to Dyzalot

    anglers gonna angle
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:34am) in reply to clwhat

    Give the man back his dino fish and gtfo out of my freedom.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:37am) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Because you know every law that has jurisdiction over you as well as how it will be interpreted by various levels of law enforcement and the justice system. The Patriot Act was to get terrorists, right? Obamacare, "we need to pass it to find out what's in it", is still being written by regulators. I would agree with you if we didn't add thousands of new regulations every year and have been doing so for decades now.

    oh come on dyz. I'm not saying you have to know every guideline/law/rule whatever. But if you violate something, you have to live with the consequences. Just because you "didn't know" does not justify it.

    I can't go out and keep bass in the 12-15" slot limit, and then claim ignorance when the game warden fines me $100 a fish.

    It doesn't work like that bro.

    And fwiw, from what I read, the feds are only confiscating his tuna. They aren't fining him for it. He might actually consider himself lucky.
    Edited By: Luho Nov 23rd, 2011 at 04:36 AM
     
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:38am) in reply to Luho

    Yeah, I am a catch and realese guy, but when did gov't get so involved in everything?
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:40am) in reply to Dyzalot

     
    Originally Posted by Dyzalot View Post

    Because you know every law that has jurisdiction over you as well as how it will be interpreted by various levels of law enforcement and the justice system.

    Horrible argument. Do better.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:41am) in reply to Mr323

     
    Originally Posted by Mr323 View Post

    Yeah, I am a catch and realese guy, but when did gov't get so involved in everything?

    Isn't the conservation department a governmental department?
     
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:42am) in reply to Luho

    So fine the guy $100 and let him keep his $350,000 fish.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:42am) in reply to The Precedent

     
    Originally Posted by The Precedent View Post

    Horrible argument. Do better.

    lol
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:43am) in reply to XquiziVex

     
    Originally Posted by XquiziVex View Post

    So fine the guy $100 and let him keep his $350,000 fish.

    You can't keep it (unless the conservationist, or whoever is giving the fine, doesn't perform his job correctly).

    When a fish out of limits is kept, the penalty is the fine (or warning) and confiscation of the fish. At least around these parts, that's how it works.
     
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:48am) in reply to Luho

    Dude's an idiot for not knowing this would happen and for not keeping this a secret until the fish was sold.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:48am) in reply to XquiziVex

    its pretty messed up how they took the man's fish and all but i dont feel too bad for him considering he was just trawling and didnt actually fight it, it was more of a bonus than anything. since he didnt have the proper permits, its just how it is. gotta take what they give ya if you skirt the law.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:48am) in reply to clwhat

    That's one big ass fish!
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:49am) in reply to Oh Rale

    and what happens with the confiscated fish?
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:51am) in reply to Realbigfish4

    They sell it for $350,000.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:51am) in reply to Realbigfish4

    Not sure...My sister-in-law was a conservationist for years...That'll probably be the first thing I find out when I see her next
     
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:52am) in reply to Luho

    Who sells it? and where does the money go?
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:52am) in reply to Realbigfish4

     
    Originally Posted by Realbigfish4 View Post

    and what happens with the confiscated fish?

    Proceeds of the sale from the fish will be held in an account until the case is resolved, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Office of Law Enforcement. "The matter is still under investigation," said Monica Allen, deputy director with NOAA Fisheries public affairs. "If it's determined that there has been a violation, the money will go into the asset forfeiture fund."
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:53am) in reply to fcdunkin

    hookers n blow
     
  26. XquiziVex XquiziVex is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:53am) in reply to Luho

    I really don't know, but it would be a huge clusterfuck if they let that awesome chunk of meat go to waste.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:55am) in reply to Luho

    selective enforcement of laws the government finds profitable are what the government does best.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 4:56am) in reply to Realbigfish4

     
    Originally Posted by Realbigfish4 View Post

    and what happens with the confiscated fish?

    every member of congress gets free sushi for the rest of the year while the rest of us go hungry. Oblameya takin away our freedums again!!
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 5:19am) in reply to ScottBrewr99

    I'm pretty proud of the 10.5 pound trout I caught the other week.
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    Nov 23rd, 2011 (11/23/2011 5:25am) in reply to clwhat

     
    Originally Posted by clwhat View Post

    anglers gonna angle

    lol
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