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  1. So I realize I am gona get flamed right outta OT posting this.

    However, it still disgusts me that he bolstered his image over some weak ass ficticious beef between him and Nas. I mean ppl were talkin bout that shit like it was gona be the next 2pac/biggie like beef and I feel Jay-Z benefited huge from this and it was all a fuckin lie.

    So even tho I do listen to him and could go as far as saying i semi-like most of his raps... this continues to tilt me and is the reason I will never consider him as one of the greats.

    Any1 else feel this way?? or should i just crawl into a cave on the side of a snowy mountain and pray for an avalanche?

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    Flame Away...
     
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  3. i dont know why people care
     
  4. nas buried him and know he's attacking 50 and yes hes a fag
  5. renegade is my ringtone

    i <3 jayz i'm seeing him next friday, weeeeeeeeeeeeee
  6. loooooove Renegade.... yeah and go w/ option B of your last paragraph
  7. LOL yeah he's a marketing genius... Who gives a fuck about "street cred" when you're worth $500 million? Still w/o a doubt top 5 greatest rappers.
  8. Most rappers today are not hard. Mainstream rap is a joke. Pretty sure that I could whip Jay-Z's ass, Puff Daddy's ass, Kanye's ass, Lil Wayne's ass (but it wouldn't be fair becuase I realize he is mentally retarded), etc. I figure the only rapper that I know of who I'm certain would whip my ass is 50-cent.

    I don't even know who the fuck NAS is, but I'm sure he is a pussy.

    You are ghey for caring about this...
  9. Jay-Z is the 2nd best/most accomplished rapper alive, next to Nas. It really doesn't matter whether you consider him one of the greats or not.
     
  10. anyone who knows rap knows nas is better

    so im not seeing the point here
  11. honestly i love Jay-Z's music and shit, I really do. I still listen to everyone of his albums, and consider Volume 1 my favorite album of all time, but I do acknowledge that he;s a fraud.

    That Camron shit swagger jacker is pretty crazy. Obv I don't buy the argument that he was "honoring" people like slick rick and shit by reusing their lines (some of which are rather obscure).
  12. Ghey-Z's best song is "I'm not a writer, I'm a biter".
  13. i've never desired to listen to a full album so it's impossible for him to be in the top 20 or a great or any other title.
  14.  
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    You are ghey for caring about this...

    u r ghey for posting in my thread when you dont even like rap.. gtfo
     
    Thread Starter
  15. who cares...rap is garbage and the rappers themselves are even more of a joke
  16.  
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    Most rappers today are not hard. Mainstream rap is a joke. Pretty sure that I could whip Jay-Z's ass, Puff Daddy's ass, Kanye's ass, Lil Wayne's ass (but it wouldn't be fair becuase I realize he is mentally retarded), etc. I figure the only rapper that I know of who I'm certain would whip my ass is 50-cent.

    I don't even know who the fuck NAS is, but I'm sure he is a pussy.

    You are ghey for caring about this...

    WOW

    You are one bad ass hippy texan.
  17.  
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post

    i've never desired to listen to a full album so it's impossible for him to be in the top 20 or a great or any other title.

    Black Album... sick as fuck (Check it out, you can play that from front to back without skipping a song)
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    one of the best beef tracks ever
  19. your mom's ghey.
  20.  
    Originally Posted by phish42O View Post

    Most rappers today are not hard. Mainstream rap is a joke. Pretty sure that I could whip Jay-Z's ass, Puff Daddy's ass, Kanye's ass, Lil Wayne's ass (but it wouldn't be fair becuase I realize he is mentally retarded), etc. I figure the only rapper that I know of who I'm certain would whip my ass is 50-cent.

    I don't even know who the fuck NAS is, but I'm sure he is a pussy.

    You are ghey for caring about this...

    1st off- Jay Z is 40 & I'd bet he'd still murder your ass, the rest of your comments have nothing to do with this thread (and make no sense) go take some more LSD bro and get lost from this thread please.
  21. Jay-Z>Nas for hip-hop and its culture.. jay-z made a label, a brand and put a ton of rappers thru into the buisness, and pushed the envelope.. Nas maybe better on the mic but way shitter in the buisness sense and always hated on Jay-z for it. Then Jay-z squasehd it, and in the Jayz video J is in the middle and NAS is a wing man as they sit on the pool table... JAY-Z > NAS end it.
  22. I disagree about Nas being better on the mic...I mean he's alright and all but..."Four albums in ten years I can divide that's one every let's say two... two of them shits was doo...the other was NAHHH and the other was Illmatic that's a one hot album every ten year average"
  23.  
    Originally Posted by thereraise View Post

    who cares...rap is garbage and the rappers themselves are even more of a joke

    if said is your opinion, don't read/post in this thread?
  24.  
    Originally Posted by LDM View Post

    i've never desired to listen to a full album so it's impossible for him to be in the top 20 or a great or any other title.

    SFObv because your God and your musical judgement/tastes are the be all/end all for all creation.
     
  25.  
    Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post

    i dont know why people care

    Just somethin thats been on my mind since the Jay-Z vs Eminem thread fizzled out
    Sorry, I'll stop caring
     
    Thread Starter
  26. Lemonade, never been afraid to insemenate your Lemonade or demonstrate the way that I penetrate in your LEMONADE!

    Never been laid, by anyone, anything? anywhere! underwear!

    Since I'm a musician, wishin to bury competition,
    I'm poopin and pissin, in a missionary position.
    See they call me a penis, and a condom's used, I'll wear it.
    If not, yo I'm swallowin the poop from a ferret.

    So who's the king of these poop, poopy, piss underwear lyrics,
    who can say they saw their hair, and swear to be serious?
    Maybe mysterious appearances as a screwed up lyricist,
    stoppin your flow like tampons do to periods.

    Maybe it's corn that I poop, or maybe it's peanuts.
    Maybe I'm a crazy genius with a baby penis.
    I saw my hair, plus I'm viewed in America,
    as the dude who screws parrots,
    like you didn't experiment ma-na-nah.

    Like when you stare at your butthole in the mirror,
    and you notice you forgot to wipe and you get embarrassed.
    And I got nothing to do, except to mess with your websites,
    yes you guessed right plus you dress like transvesites.
    And do you have any clue what I had to do to go poo
    I don't think you do, so drink doo-doo while I tinkle on you.

    Cause I'm a motherfuckin killa, with brilliant advice,
    The new Vanilla Ice, plus I fucked a gorilla twice in your
    LEMONADE!!
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  27.  
    Originally Posted by Skywalker18 View Post

    I disagree about Nas being better on the mic...I mean he's alright and all but..."Four albums in ten years I can divide that's one every let's say two... two of them shits was doo...the other was NAHHH and the other was Illmatic that's a one hot album every ten year average"

    not sufficient to call illmatic "hot." arguably the greatest rap album all time. plus nas has ether, which is arguably the greatest diss track all time. and in both those cases, that's using "arguably" pretty loosely.
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  28. love them both
  29. Renegade = Meh

    Real Jay right here...

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  30. i never really liked jay-z either...some of his verses are real good but most of em are garbage

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