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The Global War on Drugs Has Failed

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  1. Tim Lock Tim Lock is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 1:46pm)

    Interesting new report that came out today by the Global Commission on Drug Policy.

    Link to USA Today article.

    Among the reports suggestions for tackling the problem:
    • End the criminalization, marginalization and stigmatization of people who use drugs but who do no harm to others.
    • Challenge rather than reinforce common misconceptions about drug markets, drug use and drug dependence.
    • Encourage experimentation by governments with models of legal regulation of drugs to undermine the power of organized crime and safeguard the health and security of their citizens. This recommendation applies especially to cannabis, but we also encourage other experiments in decriminalization and legal regulation that can accomplish these objectives and provide models for others.
    • Offers health and treatment services to those in need.
    • Replace drug policies and strategies driven by ideology and political convenience with fiscally responsible policies and strategies grounded in science, health, security and human rights and adopt appropriate criteria for their evaluation.
    • Invest in activities that can both prevent young people from taking drugs in the first place and also prevent those who do use drugs from developing more serious problems. Eschew simplistic 'just say no' messages and 'zero tolerance' policies in favor of educational efforts grounded in credible information and prevention programs that focus on social skills and peer influences.
    Thoughts?
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 1:50pm) in reply to Tim Lock

    Miss Lippy's car... is green.
  3. El Burro El Burro is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 1:53pm) in reply to Jaybone2315

    Makes sense, but won't happen in the US. Too many jobs depend on the War on Drugs. DEA, courts, local police, prison employees and small towns with large prisons would be hammered (presuming a large portion of the local population is employed by the prison), not to mention plenty of others I'm not thinking of.

    I would also venture to guess that the (private) prison industry has a pretty strong lobby. That industry would be destroyed if decriminalization came to be.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 3:19pm) in reply to El Burro

    unfortunately it is so much easier to keep doing the same thing, then it is to make a drastic change in behavior.
     
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 4:39pm) in reply to AmSlim22

    In so many ways, the federal government embraces some of the most repressive and ignorant policies to be found anywhere in the entire civilized world. The war on drugs is certainly one of them.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 4:53pm) in reply to 2Slick4u

    It's Bush's fault
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 4:55pm) in reply to dolphin13



    preach on it son. werd!
    Edited By: p00pymcp00perton Jun 2nd, 2011 at 04:55 PM
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 5:00pm) in reply to p00pymcp00perton

    I can't wait till I can grab a Mcheroin and a double cheeseburger @ 2am.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 5:17pm) in reply to Niceguy

    Don't worry. Rick Scott has a plan.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 5:18pm) in reply to Underdog

    we enjoy being a nanny state too much for anything like this to change...no matter what the evidence is
     
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 5:27pm) in reply to mordan

    Listen, it's a great idea, if you believe people can take drugs in moderation.

    "What about prescription drugs!!!"

    They are also given out too loosely, especially pain killers and should further be restricted. Sprained ankle? Here's some naproxen and hydrocodone.

    Aww you feel a little anxious around people you don't know? Here's some xanax.

    Got the sniffles? Here's a z-pack, and some amoxicillian.

    Bah.
    Edited By: Niceguy Jun 2nd, 2011 at 05:27 PM
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 6:03pm) in reply to Niceguy

    I think they're spot on, but the US won't listen for reasons stated previously in this thread - pretty pathetic imo
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 6:09pm) in reply to pigalet42

    prohibition doesn't work so well? no one saw that coming dot dot dot ,,, ### !!! @@@ &&& %%%
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 6:47pm) in reply to EyeKnows

    "the global war on drugs has failed"



    perhaps, but the US war on drugs has been a huge success.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 6:55pm) in reply to The Alchemist

    Every year more old people die(highest anti drug contingent) and younger people(typically highest pro drug use) get to the age to vote. Only a matter of time until it becomes a forefront national issue prolly less than ten years.

    Nationally medical marijuana has high support and more and more conservative states are voting for medicinal use, Oklahoma comes to mind, and the crap politicians that are ignoring what the people say as also in Oklahoma is going to bite them in the ass. I would venture to say it is a primary reason Obama said ignore the medical states and don't do shit against them.

    For straight legalization I believe I saw on here or somewhere where nationally it's running almost fifty fifty. Where as between 78 and 2000 it was running only in the mid 20s.

    It really shouldn't be to much longer for the issue to be confronted when the people say stfu we elected you now pass the shit. I would bet in either 2012 or 2014 we will see the first state go for full legalization and regulation in either Nevada or california.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 7:18pm) in reply to tekiller

    Billy likes to drink soda
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 7:20pm) in reply to tamayo85

    dr; ttifo

    (didn't read; thread title is fucking obvious)
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 7:31pm) in reply to XquiziVex

     
    Originally Posted by XquiziVex View Post

    dr; ttifo

    (didn't read; thread title is fucking obvious)

    Lol at explaining he acronym...might as well have just left it off if you were going to write the whole thing out
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 7:33pm) in reply to tamayo85

    Meh, I always have a problem with delivery. efwmaymhy.


    (Except for when me and your mom had you.)
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 7:40pm) in reply to XquiziVex

    All research and successful drug policy shows
    That treatment should be increased,
    And law enforcement decreased,
    While abolishing mandatory minimum sentences

    Utilizing drugs to pay for secret wars around the world,
    Drugs are now your global policy,
    Now you police the globe,

    I buy my crack, my smack, my bitch,
    Right here in Hollywood,

    Drug money is used to rig elections,
    And train brutal corporate sponsored
    Dictators around the world.

    They're trying to build a prison!
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 9:42pm) in reply to MadProfesor

    all I wanted was a Pepsi!
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 9:45pm) in reply to norcaljeff

     
    Originally Posted by norcaljeff View Post

    all I wanted was a Pepsi!


    ...just one pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 10:20pm) in reply to EyeKnows

     
    Originally Posted by EyeKnows View Post

    ...just one pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me.

    Hey Mike:
    You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately.
    You know, maybe you should get away and maybe you should talk about it, maybe you'll feel a lot better

    And I'm all like:
    Oh nah it's ok you know I'll figure it out, just leave me alone I'll figure it out.
    You know I'm just working on it by myself.
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    Jun 2nd, 2011 (6/2/2011 10:34pm) in reply to MadProfesor

    no, you're on drugs!
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    Jun 3rd, 2011 (6/3/2011 12:44am) in reply to p00pymcp00perton

    These Suicidal Tendencies references have totally redeemed OT this week! =)
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