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What are some tips to better one's golf game. I shot an 89 at a pro course(Arnold Palmer) last weekend but usually don't play that well. I also took a few mulligans.
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what kind of problems are you having?
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Inconsistent drives is one of my problems. My drive slices about 90% of the time; never hooks. I "duff" or hit a real bad short shot sometimes. The duff usually involves me catching all ground behind the ball.
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are you righty or lefty? turn you non dominant wrist inwards in your grip until its baaareeely uncomfortable. slow your swing down a tad.
Edited By: shawdeep Mar 30th, 2012 at 05:59 PM
this almost instantly fixed my baby slice.
for hitting the ball fat, try stepping back a couple of inches and move the ball back in your stance. this might cause you to push your shot so open your stance a tad too. -
I was just reading up on grip techniques. I will try this today. What type of grip usually works best; the death tight grip, loosey goosey, or in the middle??
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one thing about golf...if u r shooting in the mid 90s on average is to just go to the driving range a couple times a week and work on your shot. also chipping and putting during this time is HUGE. i cant believe how often i go to the driving range and see people just hit balls and NOT chip and putt. fyi i was a really good HS golfing and played at a D2 school for a year (i was scratch). practicing chipping and putting is the thing that can improve your game the most in a short period of time.
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About the only time you want a tight grip in golf is if you happen to find yourself falling out of the cart.
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Pretty sure you want to stregthen not weakness grip to fix slice, meaning the opposite of the above
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weaker the grip = more of a slice. changing your stance to incorporate your slice isn't fixing your game, its actually making it worse by playing to your faults.
Edited By: hostile Mar 30th, 2012 at 07:03 PM
go to the range and work on things. get a 3 pack of lessons from a local professional.
15 mins chipping and putting >>>>>1 hour hitting golf balls at the range
60% of your strokes happen from 100 yards and in.
you hit your driver maybe 12 times a round, but that's all people practice at the range. Average person who shoots 90 has about 40-50 putts and chips in a round.
might not be as much fun as hitting range balls, but if you want to improve your score dramatically, putting green is where its at.
Reason: just a golf pro, what would I know -
Count every stroke from tee to the cup, keep track of putts, GIR, and penalties. It will help to know where your soft spots are and where you're making progress. It also is nice when you improve and your score actually drops. Penalties and GIR are likely to be related to your course management and knowing the yardage of your clubs (realistic, not the I hit my 5 iron 220 one time so that's what I play from 220 every time). I was putting 40+ per round and found that by relaxing my grip and slowing my back-swing, my stroke became more consistent, now I'm around 34-38 putts per round (still miss <10" tap-ins all the time). I track my scores on oobgolf.com which give some reports that kind of helped me.
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have alwasy found your advice helpful. what helped me out with my slice off the tee and even with my fairway metals and 3 and 4 irons was getting my hands clear of my hip turn. my hips were way ahead of my hands and was causing me to slice.
Originally Posted by hostile
weaker the grip = more of a slice. changing your stance to incorporate your slice isn't fixing your game, its actually making it worse by playing to your faults.
go to the range and work on things. get a 3 pack of lessons from a local professional.
15 mins chipping and putting >>>>>1 hour hitting golf balls at the range
60% of your strokes happen from 100 yards and in.
you hit your driver maybe 12 times a round, but that's all people practice at the range. Average person who shoots 90 has about 40-50 putts and chips in a round.
might not be as much fun as hitting range balls, but if you want to improve your score dramatically, putting green is where its at. -
agree with most itt. get some lessons from a pro, just get an hour and have him help you're drive and mid irons. then just go to the range and work on your chippin and putting yourself. a pro could give you tips on that, but its really not hard to work on by yourself since you're not slicing and hookin chips and puts, you just gotta find your stroke.
as far as duffing, make sure you keep youre eye on the ball. im sure most of the time you do this you're picking your head up before you contact the ball causing you to duff. just make sure you look at the ball/ground after you hit it all the way through your backswing, should help with that. -
I think your Driver may be out of date . You need to buy a new one every year . Drivers are high tech , Highly tuned instruments . From year to year , the earths axis changes slightly , so if you are playing older clubs , you will find that you will be slicing the ball . Watch your ball flight , if it curves , then you know that club will need to be re calibrated or replaced . There are other factors too , last year glare was a problem , so I had to buy a white driver . This year the glare issue has been solved , I got the green light to buy a black driver this year . Best of luck out there !
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Edited By: hostile Mar 30th, 2012 at 07:55 PMpeople who hover around 100 have completely the wrong fundamentals, especially with chipping and putting.Originally Posted by quietwinner
agree with most itt. get some lessons from a pro, just get an hour and have him help you're drive and mid irons. then just go to the range and work on your chippin and putting yourself. a pro could give you tips on that, but its really not hard to work on by yourself since you're not slicing and hookin chips and puts, you just gotta find your stroke.
as far as duffing, make sure you keep youre eye on the ball. im sure most of the time you do this you're picking your head up before you contact the ball causing you to duff. just make sure you look at the ball/ground after you hit it all the way through your backswing, should help with that.
they have there hands set improperly, incorrect ball positions, stance, body posture, stroke, wrist movement, sway, finish. Those are just off the top of my head for chipping.
putting people don't have a proper routine, inconsistent stroke, hand positions, finish, looking up, reading greens, so many things that they think they're are doing correct but are actually hurting there game.
liek i said, buy a 3 pack, or if you are serious of improving, get a 5 pack.....you get deals, rather than just going 1once here and there. Get a lesson on chipping, get another on putting, and 1 basic on the range. Then put in the practice hours and play and improve at your own pace. Once you get set up and see improvement, go back for a touch up lesson/reminder on whatever you feel you need. (5 pack allows you to have the 2 extra lessons on "layaway" basically).
golf is a game where you only get out of it, what you put in. You don't have all the answers, and I'm not claiming I even know half of them.
Short game is 100 % clearly the most important part of golf, espeically for scoring, yet you are telling him to get a lesson for his swing and teach himself chipping and putting because it's not that hard. Possibly the worst golf advice he could receive. -
drink more
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Edited By: swizbeatz Mar 30th, 2012 at 08:34 PMWe should get out and play sometime if you want some pointers, I have taught a couple people you probably know from scratch. One ended up breaking 80 first summer of playing (played or range 3-4x a week).Originally Posted by shallowcal
have alwasy found your advice helpful. what helped me out with my slice off the tee and even with my fairway metals and 3 and 4 irons was getting my hands clear of my hip turn. my hips were way ahead of my hands and was causing me to slice.
To the OP, you should watch some of the shows on the golf channel, they often have drills and tips to fix a slice as 90% of people have that miss. Haney had something good recently ill see if I can find a youtube clip.
Similar to this but it was in more depth on TGC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sv1VQKnuJQ -
Edited By: shallowcal Mar 30th, 2012 at 08:36 PMim definitely down to get out. did you get to play when you were up at st johns?Originally Posted by swizbeatz
We should get out and play sometime if you want some pointers, I have taught a couple people you probably know from scratch. One ended up breaking 80 first summer of playing (played or range 3-4x a week).
To the OP, you should watch some of the shows on the golf channel, they often have drills and tips to fix a slice as 90% of people have that miss. Haney had something good recently ill see if I can find a youtube clip.
Similar to this but it was in more depth on TGC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sv1VQKnuJQ
and i can always use pointers. that hockey players swing is ingrained in me. i can knock it around and usually am high 80's to high 90's if its a real bad day. anything to make it more consistent would be amazing.
has anybody ever told you that you some what resemble matt stafford? -
No but I live close to there too so I spend some time at Carls. Did play the day before and the day after haha. I was a 2 last year, put in a lot of work this winter and hoping to get to a + but well see.
Edited By: swizbeatz Mar 30th, 2012 at 08:40 PM
LOL @ the matt stafford comment. Blackout in AA one night a friend of a friend thought I was a ringer for him and was telling girls all night he was with MS. I didn't run with it for too long but literally every girl he said it to ran over to introduce themselves, was a good icebreaker haha. -
Co-sign getting some lessons. I had a vicious hook for years, took a lesson last summer, and instantly a grip change fixed it and I shot my all time best round 2 weeks later (81 with a lost ball because we had to finish in the dark, ughhh). It was so bad I also had to relearn how to address the ball and reset my eyes to the fairway because I had been compensating for my hook with my stance. I will definitely be taking a tune up lesson this summer to make sure I'm still where I need to be with that and if I am, move on to another focus. Also, don't be taking mulligans, play it out and keep your score, if you shoot improve and shoot 89 with no mulligans you won't see the progress because you just shot a supposed 89. And hit the range!
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I'm not a great golfer, but I used to play a lot. One trick that really helped my game, was aiming ahead of the ball. Put a tee in the ground 1 or 2 inches ahead of your ball. Line up, and aim for the tee, instead of the ball. It drastically improved my ball-striking and follow-through.
Edited By: Paki_Poker Mar 30th, 2012 at 09:12 PM -
Fixing a slice is pretty easy. 2 things you want to address: 1. grip, and 2. downswing.
1. grip
grip doesn't mean like grip pressure it means more like where your hands are. Your top hand probably needs strengthening.
this is a right-hander's left (top) hand. The left is a good strong grip and the right is a weak slicey grip. Rule of thumb is when you are about to hit the ball and look down, 2-3 knuckles of your top hand should be visible. the right hand should also be a bit turned so your palm is a little bit more sky-pointing.
This will make the clubface come through the ball square instead of opened up

2) downswing:
You are probably swinging at the ball over-the-top.
If this is the top of a ball looking down on it, and you are hitting to the left. You want to aim for the inside-back quadrant (shaded), and swing out to right field. It seems counter-intuitive (swing to the right to fix a shot that goes right) but this is the best tip. You'll be hitting baby draws in like 2 months.
This will make your clubpath stop "cutting across" the ball
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Edited By: OldGrowth Mar 30th, 2012 at 09:31 PMwell then you didn't shoot an 89 now did you? Why even keep score and brag if you take mulligans? Play it out man. Mulligans and the people that take them tilt me to no end. So you probably didn't break 100? We'll never know, will we?Originally Posted by cashinmass
What are some tips to better one's golf game. I shot an 89 at a pro course(Arnold Palmer) last weekend but usually don't play that well. I also took a few mulligans.
To answer your question though. Short game is where you should practice 90 percent of the time. it's been proven to lower your scores the fastest. -
That quadrant posted isn't right IMO, you want to hit the back inside quadrant which would left from the shaded part.
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I can make u draw the ball and get rid of your slice, just PM me. Also, quit taking mulligans completely. Putt everything out and play the ball as it lies. It's not about being a purist but if you don't you will truely never know how your game is and where u stand. Do not try shots you can't hit and play for the middle of the green in most cases. I will now read other replies.
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Edited By: CatManDo Mar 31st, 2012 at 12:28 AMBest advice ever - from a guy who can't hit a driver for shit, but has won quite a few Major trophies (Board comps.) at his club with 23-27 putts and 3-6 greens in reg - low double figure h/c.Originally Posted by hostile
weaker the grip = more of a slice. changing your stance to incorporate your slice isn't fixing your game, its actually making it worse by playing to your faults.
go to the range and work on things. get a 3 pack of lessons from a local professional.
15 mins chipping and putting >>>>>1 hour hitting golf balls at the range
60% of your strokes happen from 100 yards and in.
you hit your driver maybe 12 times a round, but that's all people practice at the range. Average person who shoots 90 has about 40-50 putts and chips in a round.
might not be as much fun as hitting range balls, but if you want to improve your score dramatically, putting green is where its at. -
keep in mind theres a difference between a strong and weak grip in terms of your hand placement on the club, and the actual grip pressure. if youre hitting a slice, 2 things are happening. one is that youre probably coming over the top with your swing and cutting across the ball, which puts the slice spin on it. secondly, youre releasing the club too late, hitting with an open club face, which compounds the previous problem. if you only do one of these things, your shot will be more of a fade, or at least not a complete banana slice. to get the hands/wrists loose, swing the club like a baseball bat and turn your wrists over completely before you get to the point of impact. doing this drill a few times should help you create the feel of fully releasing. to get the club on the right path on the downswing, really visualize the club starting from the inside, and then following through to the outside, which is what creates the draw spin. combine that with turning your hands over more and youll start turning the ball from right to left, instead of left to right. of course if you just want to hit dead straight shots, the path needs to come down in the center, and release in the center. but to fix a slice, to change the muscle memory you probably teach yourself how to hit a draw.
the biggest thing is understanding what physically happens in a golf swing when someone hits a slice/hook/fade/draw. most people who slice tend to try and turn their body more and hit the ball more left, because their ball slices to the right more, when all that does is cause you to cut across the ball more, which causes the slice. to hit a draw, you need to trust that you need to stay in your posture, and release the club out more to the right, and let the spin from an inside out swing do all the work. theres infinite information online about these that will really help, and the first step is probably understanding the physics -
it is from the perspective of address
Originally Posted by swizbeatz
That quadrant posted isn't right IMO, you want to hit the back inside quadrant which would left from the shaded part.
and you dont wanna hit it but visually aim there to encourage inside to out swing path. The problem with this is the takeaway and position at the top are what you should be using to start fixing the problem. Its pretty hard to have a good downswing with a poor takeaway -
I think I'm going to find the iron that I can hit 150 yards and practice with it until I can land it on a beach towel... I'm pretty sure this is the secret.














