I really have no idea how to rank head coaches, so my rankings are from a casual fans perspective + (hopefully) some common sense. As I understand, some long-tenured, well respected coaches make a lot of technical mistakes w/ respect to clock management and play calling in time sensitive situations, but I know almost nothing about that so it's not a factor in my rankings. I'm really just trying to generate some discussion. I'm talking specifically about head coaches too, not a teams whole coaching squad. Also notable that I'm probably biased towards coaches with consistent results, which hurts newer/younger coaches. Anyway:

1. Belichick
2. Payton
3. Tomlin
4. Coughlin
5. John Harbaugh

Coaches I want to mention, but don't know enough about: Rex Ryan, Jim Schwartz, Raheem Morris.

These guys are obv doing something right, but OT seems to kill them: Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Norv Turner.

Kinda hatin on: Shanny., but you've got 5 years IMO.

 

Originally Posted by elusively

I really have no idea how to rank head coaches, so my rankings are from a casual fans perspective + (hopefully) some common sense. As I understand, some long-tenured, well respected coaches make a lot of technical mistakes w/ respect to clock management and play calling in time sensitive situations, but I know almost nothing about that so it's not a factor in my rankings. I'm really just trying to generate some discussion. I'm talking specifically about head coaches too, not a teams whole coaching squad. Also notable that I'm probably biased towards coaches with consistent results, which hurts newer/younger coaches. Anyway:

1. Belichick
2. Payton
3. Tomlin
4. Coughlin
5. John Harbaugh

Coaches I want to mention, but don't know enough about: Rex Ryan, Jim Schwartz, Raheem Morris.

These guys are obv doing something right, but OT seems to kill them: Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Norv Turner.

Kinda hatin on: Shanny., but you've got 5 years IMO.

McCarthy has to be in the top 5.

and Norv Turner is an atrocious head coach.

Coaches you wanna mention should also include Jim Harbaugh...dude is doing some silly stuff in San Fran imo...

Hate on John Fox for giving in and playing a guy he knows has no business playing QB. (not that he had a real choice, unfortunate for him really)

Andy Reid is easily in the top 5. I don't know the answer off the top of my head, but he led the Eagles to something like four NFC Championship games in five years in the mid 2000s. He def makes some boneheaded calls here and there, but he's one of the best imo. My list would be:

1. Bellichick
2. Reid
3. Tomlin
4. Payton
5. Coughlin

I fucking hate the Steelers, always have, but I really like Tomlin

obv Belichik #1 (happy I missed game Sunday)

If Jim Harbaugh isnt currently in your top 5, then your argument is invalid.

 

Originally Posted by Pghfan987

I'd like to play Devil's Advocate here ... why is this so obvious? I need something specific to Belichick that would not apply to Tom Brady (i.e., he has 3 Super Bowl rings.) Belichick is 51-62 in his career as a head coach when Tom Brady is not the starting quarterback of his football team. He hasn't won a Super Bowl in seven years.

I bet most people thought Jim Caldwell was a good coach until this season.

I can kinda see this, but either Belichick is the best coach out there or Tom Brady is the best QB who ever laced them up.

 

Originally Posted by Pghfan987

I'd like to play Devil's Advocate here ... why is this so obvious? I need something specific to Belichick that would not apply to Tom Brady (i.e., he has 3 Super Bowl rings.) Belichick is 51-62 in his career as a head coach when Tom Brady is not the starting quarterback of his football team. He hasn't won a Super Bowl in seven years.

I bet most people thought Jim Caldwell was a good coach until this season.

what other coach would have went for it 4th and 2 against the colts a couple years ago. no one. goat. and everyone knew caldwell was terrible since his first season.

random thought on andy reid. i feel like hes an excellent coach from a preparation standpoint. one of the best. 8-0 after last 8 bye weeks or something. but just so bad at in-game decisions and clock management.

 

Originally Posted by warden

he has coached 7 NFL games. i say we calm down before we rank him that highly. tony sparano took a 1-15 dolphins team to 11-5 and the AFC east championship, but no one is going to rank him very highly.

i think he'll probably succeed, but it's too early to be saying 'top 5 coach!'

Well I mean, i thought we were talking about this year. Not of all time. Two year ago CJ is the best RB in the league, now he wouldnt make the top 15.

If we are just looking at this year... Harbaugh took a 1-6 team and turned them into a 6-1 team. Who has done better then that this year. Aside from the Packers, the 49ers are the only other team that hasnt gone out one week and laid an egg.

 

Originally Posted by AMARTIN1181

belichek being number 1 right now is a complete joke. He's gotten outcoached 2 years in a row in the playoffs and by coughlin in 07. OH but keep giving him a pass because he cheated his way to a few superbowls and lucksacked some 3 point wins/ playoff games. PFFFFT. I'll take tomlin and payton over him going forward and maybe some other guys. Games passed you by hoody!!

Belichek is a fantastic coach, but hes made some interesting personnel decisions in the past few drafts. Why doesn't he draft for the defense? He had multiple opportunities to select young defensive players in the draft but yet elects to draft Ryan Mallet in the third round when they're likely set at QB for the next 4+ years.

The pats are already elite on offense, a little more attention to the D would go a LONG way for them.

I like Tomlin, but wonder how much of his success might be due to Lebeau's command of the defense.

1. Belichek



Everyone else


32. Caldwell

These guys are obv doing something right, but OT seems to kill them: Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, Norv Turner.

Kinda hatin on: Shanny., but you've got 5 years IMO.[/QUOTE]


I don't think not going to the super bowl when your team was predicted to have a good shot for the last 8 years is good.

1. Mike Mccarthy(great play caller and game manager)
2. Belichick
3. lemme think im sure ive heard of other coaches
4. sean payton
5. guess im a jim schwartz fan
6. coughlin, rex ryan, tomlin, andy reid,are good, both harbaughs seem good, todd haley

norv turner sucks, mike smith sucks, frazier always seems like his head is up his ass, john fox coach denver now? hes fucking up....

 

Originally Posted by spacemandave

1. Mike Mccarthy(great play caller and game manager)

Two years ago Aaron Rodgers was getting pounded weekly cuz the Oline couldn't pass block and Rodgers hadn't learned how to throw it away. MM took a alot of heat for not adjusting the offense to compensate for pass blocking problems. I think he learned a lot from that period. Now he seems to make the necessary in-game adjustments without so much hand-wringing.

1. Belichick
2. Tomlin
3. Payton
4. McCarthy
5. Reid

imo