mattraq seems like an up and coming fellow. what a tool

 

Originally Posted by ecugirl93

I'd venture to guess, however, that since the majority of people itt seem to agree with me, I'm not the one who is being "retarded" here.

the majority of ppl ITT might agree with you, but the majority of ppl in the world don't - that's why you don't see other countries trending up with circumcisions and you actually see them trending down in the US

I got in a big argument with my son's doctor and my GF about this when he was born. They ended up talking me out of having him cut. Im not worried about weather his future women find it attractive because he can get it surgically repaired by then. What I was concerned about was the locker room situation. Because I know when I was in that situation (phy-ed) 100% of the guys were circumsized and if someone would have had an anteater they would have been ridiculed.

LOL this thread is funny.

I am circumcised and I wouldn't have it any other way. The last thing I want is a bunch of unnecessary skin hanging over the end of my dick.

I can bust a nut just fine and I don't need or want an 80% boost in sensation (if that's even accurate)

I don't think that this would necessarily be a horrible law, but I personally am very happy that I got circumcised as an infant. Getting that done at like 12 would really suck and it would be a terrifying experience for a young teenager.

i like this law, though it will never be passed. laws to outlaw infant circumcision are proposed all the time. infant circumcision should be illegal everywhere. it's insanely fucked up.

ok fine, i'll throw in some personal experience.

I'm gonna get massively flamed for this post but I don't give a fuck anymore.

1) there is no medical benefit to circumcision (even that whole aids/std thing is absolute bullshit). they did the same study twice in Africa and the first time the results came in "circumcision reduces std infection by 50%". then they did the exact same experiment a year later and the results came back "circumcision increases the risk of stds/aids by 60%."

2) wtf? mutilate your son's penis because it might get dirty? you could not wash your uncut dick for 30 years and you wouldn't get an infection. it'll just smell funny eventually, and you'll wash it anyway, christ.

3) it isn't that often that kids get naked in the locker room in gym class anyway. 4 years of high school gym class and I don't recall seeing one penis.

4) even so, the rate of circumcision in america is like 55%. so even if every kid was naked half would be cut and half wouldn't so they'd just be making fun of each other, with half their friends on their side backing them up.

5) deciding to cut off a part of your child's penis because you think it is aesthetically pleasing is fucked up.

6) the only girls who really care are the ones who have never seen an uncut one. if they are used to it, they're not going to care. if no one was circumcised, then practically no one would prefer circumcised dicks.

7) and now for some personal experience. I was circumcised when I was born. when I was around 15 years old i actually learned what a circumcision was, and frankly, I was pretty pissed that it was done to me. from then on i was always self conscious about it, even though i was just the same as almost all of my friends. so, i did something about it. I grew a replacement. now, of course I can't get back the nerves that were removed, so it will never be 100% normal. However, i really do prefer the way it looks now with my new foreskin. as for the feeling. with my new covering, the head of my penis and the inner foreskin became resensitized. the difference is actually incredible. I don't know any way to quantify the difference, but sex now is like 90% better. it's ridiculous. in fact, sex itself is completely different. the way sex is supposed to work (if you aren't circumcised) has a huuuuge effect on the girl's enjoyment of it. i used to never be able to get my girlfriend off by penile-vaginal intercourse, but now she gets off every time, sometimes 2 or 3 or 4 times before I even cum once. it also helps that I last much much much longer in bed now. I'd say before i would average about 3-5 minutes tops, now every time i have sex I last 20-30 minutes or more. this is because the nerves that are primarily responsible for triggering orgasm are located on the underside of the head. if you're cut, this is always rubbing against the walls of the vagina and you orgasm pretty quickly. If you have a foreskin, this area is always covered so you last a lot longer.

and also, my gf doesn't give a crap how much skin is hanging off the end of my dick. in fact, i have never met one girl who actually cares enough that being uncut would be a dealbreaker. i imagine this is because being a younger person, more of my female peers are used to seeing both, so most of them aren't freaked out by foreskin. there really is no longer a "fear" or "hatred" of foreskin by women in america, except for old people who have never seen an actual normal penis.

let the flaming begin.

 

Originally Posted by Mattraq1

Different cultures have different definitions of medically accepted procedures. In africa in some villages it is "medically accepted" to sew a womans vajayjay shut untill she is married so she cant have premarital sex.

Does that make it ok? According to your arguement, yes

This law is proposed in America, not in a village in Africa.

 

Originally Posted by hockeywonk

I got in a big argument with my son's doctor and my GF about this when he was born. They ended up talking me out of having him cut. Im not worried about weather his future women find it attractive because he can get it surgically repaired by then. What I was concerned about was the locker room situation. Because I know when I was in that situation (phy-ed) 100% of the guys were circumsized and if someone would have had an anteater they would have been ridiculed.

lol so your kid at 20 is going to get a circumcision? im kinda doubting that

I would leave my wife if we had a boy and she didn't want him to get snipped. No way could I live with her.

Lol bfactor...what kid at 15 or 16 would wanna have a knife taken to his dick?? Seriously I would be scared outt my mind...luckily I got the ol' snip snip at birth.

I'm not really disagreeing with you here, pigalet. My comments are not really about circumcision or non-circumcision. I think it should be up to the parent, as it always has been. I wouldn't support a law that said people have to get their child circumsicized anymore than I think it's appropriate for the gov't to do the opposite. I don't think you and I disagree there from what I've read. I also have a personal opinion that uncircumsized penises are not attractive, but that's what it is and nothing more, a personal preference. I'm totally ok with someone having a different opinion on the matter.

The reason I even mentioned that is because bfactor repeatedly comes into threads, harasses me and calls me names because we have a difference of opinion. Whether everyone or nobody agreed with me, it's still annoying. My point is, why does he ignore others who share similiar opinions, but target my posts and call me retarded? He seems to have a few targets other than me as well. It's just weird.

He seems to have this really intense need to argue in such an emphatic, dramatic way that makes me think he may have some sort of mental health issue. I have a few things that I feel really strongly about, but dear God, I've never seen someone who argues about absolutely everything with such intensity to the point where they refuse to recognize that someone isn't wrong or bad for disagreeing with them (actually, I do know someone like that who I strongly suspect has Borderline Personality Disorder). I may feel strongly about something, but I certainly don't think people who feel differently from myself are retarded. I think normal, mentally sound people are capable of making this distinction.

 

Originally Posted by bfactor

Sigh, whatever, you suck.

Yes, she does. But only if you are circumcised. Stay on track here...

 

Originally Posted by KingMonty

This subject makes me wonder if all Americans are mentally ill!

But if it make you feel better to say a circumcised/mutilated (without consent) cock is preferable then go ahead. That is a cognitive dissonance.

It is merely a silly Jewish tradition which occasionally has to be done for medical reasons on non-Jews with tight foreskins.

I'm not so sure it is a silly Jewish tradition.......there are a few, but this one I believe is not so silly.

lol! Thanks for the clarification. My mom used to tell me that the boys who picked on me did so because they liked me. There was one boy in 1st grade who constantly said mean things to me. I would come home crying it was so bad. Anyway, my mom met his mom at a school function one day and his mom told her that he really really liked me and that he constantly talked about "Heather this and Heather that". I was shocked when my mom told me that! Maybe you're onto something here ;) I'm glad most boys grow out of it. Let's hear it for maturity!

I've seen both. I've actually had sex with someone who was uncircumsized if you must know. I still prefer circumsized, so it has nothing to do with "being old and never seeing an actual normal penis".

 

Originally Posted by j_money24

i used to never be able to get my girlfriend off by penile-vaginal intercourse, but now she gets off every time

I have no problem whatsoever with getting off from penile/vaginal intercourse, to use your words, and the vast majority of my sexual experiences have been with circumsized men. Only 25% of women are capable of having an orgasm from intercourse. I'm not sure it has anything to do with the man's penis at all. Many times it's a psychological thing for the woman.

I didn't know you could "grow a replacement". That's fascinating! It's cool that you shared your personal experiences. Thanks, I really appreciate getting a different perspective from someone who has actual knowledge of both. I was sincere in asking that question earlier. As long as you're happy, then that's the important thing.

Yeah, I think we agree more than we disagree on this one, but I was disappointed that you sank to the level of hurling insults at all uncircumcised males (*oops nm I musta been thinking of someone else) - I know it can be frustrating when it seems you're being trolled, but you're supposed to turn the other cheek! bc you're a Christian - see, I don't have to cuz I'm not - lol ;)